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Roderick Grant
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Roderick Grant
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My dear friend, the subject of the devolution of the English language is addressed by you far more than by anyone else on this site. As a matter of fact, just today on another thread you expressed from your soapbox grave concern that youngsters no longer know how to speak the language properly. You mentioned an unnamed senator; I responded by sharing a linguistic scholar’s assessment of the laughable, preadolescent speech patterns of the commander in chief.Roderick Grant wrote:Good lord, Peter, get off the soap box. Take up gardening.
“First, it is depressing what is happening to the English language, especially with younger posters.� - R. Grant 03/23/18
...quite contrary, how does your garden grow?
It’s too early here in the Midwest. I must wait until April-May...
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Roderick Grant
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There are always flower pots for the window sills.
The point I make, dear friend, is that your obsession with Trump has bled into another thread. Enough, already. We all know Trump has limited communication skills, and that Obama is rhetorically gifted. One marks the beginning of the new age, while the other is mired in the past.
Mae West famously said, "I like to push the language around to get my meaning across." In his own way, Trump does the same. Far from eloquent, but he's headed in the right direction, like it or not. As I have quoted before, Ibsen's character in "An Enemy of the People" said "The majority are not always right; they are always wrong. That man is correct who most closely allies himself with the future."
I may be wrong, but that's I's opinion.
The point I make, dear friend, is that your obsession with Trump has bled into another thread. Enough, already. We all know Trump has limited communication skills, and that Obama is rhetorically gifted. One marks the beginning of the new age, while the other is mired in the past.
Mae West famously said, "I like to push the language around to get my meaning across." In his own way, Trump does the same. Far from eloquent, but he's headed in the right direction, like it or not. As I have quoted before, Ibsen's character in "An Enemy of the People" said "The majority are not always right; they are always wrong. That man is correct who most closely allies himself with the future."
I may be wrong, but that's I's opinion.
Much as I hate to revive a less-than-friendly thread, where else am I going to post about our evolving language ?
(A new "language" thread, maybe ?)
Watching High-Imperialist Judge Judy Sheindlin on the electric television set gives one an opportunity to see English as it is presently spoken, by some.
Today I witnessed yet another citizen telling the judge that she "seen" something, intending the past tense. Why not the correct (and simple) choice, "saw" ?
One possibility, it occurs to me, could be that such a locution might have been corrected by a well-meaning listener, who might have suggested that if
one wanted to use "seen," a correct usage might be "had seen." The problem with that is that "had seen" is not equivalent to "saw."
The possibility is that, in trying to be correct, the hapless mis-speaker would now use "had seen" whenever speaking in the simple past tense, thus
unwittingly committing a new and different error. What's a (poor) English speaker to do . . . ?
SDR
(A new "language" thread, maybe ?)
Watching High-Imperialist Judge Judy Sheindlin on the electric television set gives one an opportunity to see English as it is presently spoken, by some.
Today I witnessed yet another citizen telling the judge that she "seen" something, intending the past tense. Why not the correct (and simple) choice, "saw" ?
One possibility, it occurs to me, could be that such a locution might have been corrected by a well-meaning listener, who might have suggested that if
one wanted to use "seen," a correct usage might be "had seen." The problem with that is that "had seen" is not equivalent to "saw."
The possibility is that, in trying to be correct, the hapless mis-speaker would now use "had seen" whenever speaking in the simple past tense, thus
unwittingly committing a new and different error. What's a (poor) English speaker to do . . . ?
SDR
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KayFrancis
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Roderick Grant
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KayFrancis
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KayFrancis
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I 'm noticing a remarkable silence on this thread since I've posted the last few articles. What happened to all the mutually congratulatory criticisms of the project now that they have all been proven wrong? Or are all you "Dear friends"
too busy trying to impress each other with your pretentious command of the English language?
too busy trying to impress each other with your pretentious command of the English language?