Article: FBI releases it's file on Lana Peters

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Roderick Grant
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Post by Roderick Grant »

No surprise the FBI, under Hoover's endless administration, would keep tabs on Svetlana ... and Frank Lloyd Wright ... and Aline Barnsdall. It didn't take much to have a file. Hell, even I have an FBI file.
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Post by Palli »

Yes, Roderick. When is the FBI just going to call this vast collection the Great American Biographical Project.
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Post by jim »

Speaking of Svetlana's, the Wikipedia (not an unimpeachable source, I know) bio of Gurdjieff includes the following about the prior Svetlana in the Taliesin household:


"Offspring
Gurdjieff had seven known illegitimate children:[19]
▪ Cynthie Sophia "Dushka" Howarth (1924-2010); her mother was dancer Jessmin Howarth.[20][21][1] She went on to found the Gurdjieff Heritage Foundation.[2]
▪ Sergei Chaverdian; his mother was Lily Galumnian Chaverdian.[22]
▪ Andrei, born to a mother known only as Georgii.[22]
▪ Eve Taylor (born 1928); the mother was one of his followers, American socialite Edith Annesley Taylor.[19]
▪ Nikolai Stjernvall (1919-2010), whose mother was Elizaveta Grigorievna, wife of Leonid Robertovich de Stjernvall.[3]
▪ Michel de Salzmann (1923-2001), whose mother was Jeanne Allemand de Salzmann; he later became head of the Gurdjieff Foundation.[23]
▪ Svetlana Hinzenberg, daughter of Olga Ivanovna Hinzenberg and a future stepdaughter of architect Frank Lloyd Wright.[24]
^
[24] That Svetlana is considered to be a daughter of Gurdjieff by all his other identified children is cited in Paul Beekman Taylor, Shadows of Heaven: Gurdjieff and Toomer (Red Wheel, 1998), page 3"
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Post by Reidy »

Strictly speaking it wasn't the FBI in Barnsdall's case. The feds were watching her during WW1 and shortly thereafter; the FBI wasn't founded until 1927.
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Post by Roderick Grant »

I know. It was Aline's connection to Emma Goldman that started the file, but once the FBI was established, the file was continued up to her death date. Ginny has seen it.

That Svetlana may have been Gurdjieff's child is not surprising. That sort of charismatic leader, like Jim Jones and David Koresh, use "spreading their seed" as a means of control. But I bet Vladimir didn't know. He tried very hard to get Svetlana away from Olga when she and Frank absconded to Minnesota.

Whatever happened to Vladimir Hinzenberg?
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