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Post by dtc »

I agree, a bench free standing, not built in, would give the flexibility one might need to move it out of the sun or shade whenever...plus it would give time for the grass to recover, specially if one entertained guests often.

Yes the top of the bench would be flush with the top of the lowest batten.

Am I the only one that finds the White metal glider/swing offensive?
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Post by SDR »

No, you're not.

So, we're consigning our long-suffering owner to sitting at attention on a bench, like a shlub -- when what he wanted was to recline in grace and comfort ?

Or not. What do I know . . .

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Peter sends this photo, taken I believe at the Lamberson prow:


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The prow, broken and interrupted... Someday we will find the right mason who can tackle the job, but in the mean time, it is still fun to enjoy the skeletal outdoor room. Our table was made by using a butterfly hassock as a base, and having a glass top cut for it.

From Knoll:

"The B.K.F. Chair—also known as the Hardoy Chair, Butterfly Chair, Safari Chair, Sling Chair, or Wing Chair—was designed in Buenos Aires and its name credits its three designers. The first two B.F.K. chairs to come to the United States went to Fallingwater, Edgar Kaufmann Jr.’s home in Pennsylvania (designed by family friend Frank Lloyd Wright), and to MoMA. Edgar Kaufmann accurately predicted that the lightweight and inexpensive lounge chair would become hugely popular in the U.S., particularly on the West Coast.

Artek-Pascoe produced the chair from 1941 to 1948, sending royalties back to Argentina. Knoll Associates acquired U.S. production rights in the late 1940s and unsuccessfully pursued legal action against unauthorized copies, which continue to be produced to this day.


Grupo Austral introduced their new chair of leather and enameled steel at the 3rd Salon de Artistas Decoradores interior design exhibition in Buenos Aires in 1940. On the occasion of the Salon, the group sent a note to the organizers indicating that the chair was the sole work of Ferrari-Hardoy. Hence it is most commonly referenced in design circles as the Hardoy chair, but it is also known as the Butterfly chair and the BKF chair (the initials of the designers; Antonio Bonet, Jorge Ferrari-Hardoy and Juan Kurchan).

The chair received two design prizes at its introduction. In 1941 the chair was awarded the Acquisition Prize by the Museum of Modern Art, after Edgar Kaufmann Jr. bought the chair to MoMA’s attention.

Knoll acquired US production rights of the Hardoy chair in 1947, brining international notice and commercial success to the design. A rash of inferior copies prompted legal action by Knoll in 1950. After losing their claim of copyright infringement, Knoll dropped the chair from its line in 1951. More than five million copies of the chair were estimated to have been produced by numerous manufacturers during the 1950s alone."

So the chair was designed the same year that GW was built...
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Many people may be more familiar with the folding version of the chair.


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"...sitting at attention. on a bench, like a shlub." ... you are very familiar with Wright's furniture. Spoken like a man who has lived with a built in settle in a usonian. You are absolutely right. A lounge chair or two (with arms?)
is the way to go.

Poor Lamberson Terrace...what happen? Let me guess, deferred maintenance.
Most likely scuppers thru the parapets failed years ago. And of course water also entered the masonry thru the rolock. Also minor and major cracks developed in the terrace concrete mat, more water. No matter how well they are built water will eventually break it down along with the second enemy of buildings...freezing temperatures.
Does Lamberson have access to the garden from that terrace?
Hope so, for at Kraus, as you know, Wright did not create access to the garden from the terrace or the Lani.
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dtc wrote:"...sitting at attention. on a bench, like a shlub." ... you are very familiar with Wright's furniture. Spoken like a man who has lived with a built in settle in a usonian. You are absolutely right. A lounge chair or two (with arms?)
is the way to go.

Poor Lamberson Terrace...what happen? Let me guess, deferred maintenance.
Most likely scuppers thru the parapets failed years ago. And of course water also entered the masonry thru the rolock. Also minor and major cracks developed in the terrace concrete mat, more water. No matter how well they are built water will eventually break it down along with the second enemy of buildings...freezing temperatures.
Does Lamberson have access to the garden from that terrace?
Hope so, for at Kraus, as you know, Wright did not create access to the garden from the terrace or the Lani.
Our built in bench is extremely comfortable. It is the variation which has the inclined seat and back. I thnk the flat seated version would be far less comfortable, though better for functioning as an extra sleeping area. However, I woudn't recommend a bench in the case of GW as outdoor seating, unless there would be a couple of additional lounge chairs.

You describe what I assume happened at the Lamberson terrace perfectly. From talking with a few locals who remember the place from years ago, it seems that it was already dismantled around 1980, about thirty years after the completion of the house.

The terrace does have access to the garden, though it wasn't originally drawn or built that way. A revised drawing done about a year after the Lambersons moved in, shows steps going to the garden. My assumption was that it was a cost saving measure, and Wright added them in for a future modification. This revised drawing was done mainly to show where and how a fourth bedroom and extra bath could be added at a later date...
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When you eventually restore the Lamberson terrace (I'm sure you will document the transformation and all of the Wright Chatters will benefit from it) it will bring the terrace to Wright's original vision of the proper exterior space for the home.
Dr. Dobkins experienced similar problems with his main terrace so many years ago. It is a constant battle... yes he had interior wall copping under the rolock and still water finds its way in.
Nature as Wright liked to spell with a capital "N" smiles down on buildings as they are being built for Nature knows it will win out in the end. Architects and trades men put them up as well as they can & Nature will bring them down.
Sounds very simplistic but true.
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The Prairie house terraces with their cap block seemed to hold up better than the brick with rowlock of the Usonians.
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Post by SDR »

To revisit the bench issue, there's a world of difference between a level bench with no back (which I assumed was the intention, when a portable bench was suggested for the G/W lanai) and Wright's built-in seating, which (when properly designed) has both a canted seat and a sloping back.

Lamberson is graced with both types of "bench" -- with an outdoor continuation of the row of indoor benches beneath the view windows, still to come. There'd be nothing wrong with such benches anywhere, indoors or out -- as long as more comfortable (lounge) seating was also provided ?


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Post by KevinW »

It is my opinion that the outdoor areas are where Wright would like to encourage flexibility in seating, almost to a display of whimsy..
And I agree that the metal glider at T-West is terrible to look at, especially in such a lovely place. I can tell you from experience...it heats up real good in August....
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Perhaps that explains the white paint . . .


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Some new views of the house, including a unique vantage of the lanai:

http://tinyurl.com/7nybs3d

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This has sparked my interest in redoing my G-W model,since it is small and doesn't take to long here is to redoing it. I have nothing better to do as of this moment.
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