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Mobius?...Hypnoraygun? Are you still with us?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:06 pm
by DRN
We haven't heard from Mobius since the earthquake in Christchurch sometime ago...

Hypnoraygun...did you escape the tornados? Are you ok? Did the suspended roof at Goff's Freeman house in Joplin stay in place?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:48 pm
by Jeff Myers
I was out chasing yesterday. I caught some tornadoes in Northeast Oklahoma and saw some tree damage. but that was all. I could of almost gone to Joplin to chase but glad I did not because I did not have time to intercept the storm, and I am glad I didn't due to all the damage.
It is going to be a wild ride tomorrow and I am possibly chasing. I am not only into Architecture but storms and storm chasing.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:25 pm
by hypnoraygun
DRN (via Paul Ringstrom's email!)

Thank you for the concern, Yes I'm fine, I live in St Louis now, but I grew up right around Joplin, MO. I went to college there. My parents still live just south of Joplin. Fortunately my family and most of my friends have been spared (I found out early this morning a good friend of mine and her husband are okay). But people they know have not been so lucky. Several people my parents know, have had their homes destroyed.

The Bruce Goff house should be okay, I haven't heard directly, but it is located north of town and it appear that area wasn't even touched.

Now the E. Fay Jones designed "Corcoran House" may not have fared so well. It is located 1 mile southwest from St Johns hospital. This is the hospital. http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbancn/5750853818/ The hospital has been featured frequently on the news, due to all the windows being blown out and everyone being removed from the hospital. It is hard to say, without seeing aerial photographs or being there. I won't know for awhile. My parents said the roads have been pretty well shut down/monitored to limit traffic.

I really appreciate the concern, as there are many who have lost everything. Here is a link to flickr.com with some recent photographs http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Joplin&s=rec

Donations can be sent via The Red cross at
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and donations for the Salvation Army can be made online at www.salvationarmyusa.org. All donations for disaster services can be used for a designated purpose by specifying over the phone or in the “Specific Use� field of our online form.

Calling 1-800-SAL-ARMY

Texting “JOPLIN� to 80888 to make a $10 donation. Confirm when prompted with “yes�

Thank you!!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:29 pm
by peterm
What a terrible year! I'm glad you're ok, Craig. Please keep us posted.

Stay safe...

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:40 pm
by Jeff Myers
It has been more active this year.. Even going into this year I discussed possibilities of seeing an EF5 this year(we saw 3 maybe 4?) also some of my weather enthusiasts,meteorologists,chasers all said this year we would see an outbreak (So far I lost count on how many outbreaks have happened) With tomorrow not looking so well for TX,OK,KS,AR,MO tomorrow could very well be a big outbreak... I will monitor and keep everyone informed. The Joplin,MO tornado is preliminary EF4 with wind estimated at 190 to 198 mph... it could go higher in that rating. This is just awful and in my 21 years I never thought I would see such magnitudes of damage it is unreal....
Hypno where exactly is the E Fay Jone house located?
I have a friend who lives on the North Side of Joplin and said no damage at all.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:50 am
by Jeff Myers
Storm Prediction Center issued a High Risk of Severe Weather for Oklahoma City, Wichita, Tulsa. All these areas are now in a 45% tornado risk...
I am shaking like crazy but hopefully no property or lives are lost in this,of what is to be a big tornado outbreak.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:48 pm
by Roderick Grant
The tornado in St. Louis Park apparently did little damage, but went on to cut a path through Fridley, a suburb north of Minneapolis.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:57 pm
by Mobius
Yes yes - I am still in the land of the living.

So too, fortunately, is the home I built in Christchurch. In fact it took no damage whatsoever. As it should, because it was built like the proverbial brick shithouse! :)

A large portion of the city is a real mess though, and it will be 20 years before we are fully recovered from two devastating earthquakes. Another relatively strong aftershock hit about 2 minutes ago.

What's interesting is that if you owned a wooden home, on a concrete slab, with a tin roof, your house was almost undamaged - even in the very heavily hit areas. (Provided the earth under the home did not split or move vertically more in one location than another.)

Just about every home with bricks as cladding has lost the bricks on at least two sides. The homes which were CONSTRUCTED of bricks have mostly collapsed. But it's been 50 years since it became illegal to build things using bricks. (I call the modern fascination with covering wooden buildings in brick; "Brick Veneereal Disease". I rate it about as highly as I rate columns at the front of a home, holding up nothing at all.

Concrete block buildings faired pretty well.

The kiss of death to a home though, has been concrete tiles on the roof. I have no idea how many tons of tiles a 240sq.m home has, but what I do know is that the answer is "too many". All that weight at the top of a building causes either the building to collapse, or the roof to self-destruct and fall into the home, or create an avalanche of concrete which can kill you as you run from the home.

Damage to sewerage and water mains, and roads will take many years to clear up. Roads next to the two main rivers through town have been, in many cases, completely destroyed, with earth movements of up to 2 metres in any direction.

The liquefaction which spewed out everywhere is estimated to have been around 2-3 million tons worth for both earthquakes. That's a very large pile of it, believe me!

Oddly, the material (mostly sand mixed with silt and mud) when it dries out smells exactly like a pig farm - which shouldn't be a surprise I guess.

Fortunately, the area I am living in now was unaffected by the quake, except we had no more than a tiny dribble, or no water at all, for 9 days afterwards. I never complained about bathing out of a bucket, but I can confirm that hot and cold running water and a functioning sewer system is the greatest luxury there is.

I am in design mode again now, for my next new home, and this one will not be based on an FLW design, but be an entirely new design based on tilt-slab concrete. It will however retain some FLW design cues: large overhangs, clerestory windows, flat rooves on differing levels, large living areas and modest bedrooms. It will be remarkable simple, yet cunningly detailed, with simple motifs repeated throughout the design.

I have established a basic design around an asymmetric Cruciform shape, with the home itself being the familiar L-shape of many of FLWs Usonians. The "Baselines" of the cruciform will be individual slabs extending right through the entire home, and obviously visible as such. They continue out from the home and into the gardens and entryway area, and form the basis for several large cantilevers to provide shade and rain cover for occupants and visitors.

I will post some drawings when I am satisfied I have something to show you, which won't make you feel ill!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:15 pm
by peterm
We're glad you're well, and look forward to seeing the drawings...

Will you keep your current house?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:41 pm
by Jeff Myers
I am A OKAY here in Tulsa however damage all throughout OK

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:59 am
by pharding
Mobius wrote:.....I am in design mode again now, for my next new home, and this one will not be based on an FLW design, but be an entirely new design based on tilt-slab concrete. It will however retain some FLW design cues: large overhangs, clerestory windows, flat rooves on differing levels, large living areas and modest bedrooms. It will be remarkable simple, yet cunningly detailed, with simple motifs repeated throughout the design.

I have established a basic design around an asymmetric Cruciform shape, with the home itself being the familiar L-shape of many of FLWs Usonians. The "Baselines" of the cruciform will be individual slabs extending right through the entire home, and obviously visible as such. They continue out from the home and into the gardens and entryway area, and form the basis for several large cantilevers to provide shade and rain cover for occupants and visitors.
Those are very cool ideas with great potential.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:23 am
by DRN
Welcome back Mobius! Glad to hear you came through it all relatively unscathed, and that your built opus has fared well.

Your next house design concept sounds very intriguing and promising. I look forward to your sharing some drawings when you are ready.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:40 pm
by Jeff Myers
Well I did chase a tornado yesterday and then almost got run over by a rain wrapped tornado, that is when I got scared to death as with 4 others in the car but other than that it was one heck of a day in OK and today it is AR,MO,IL,IN,OH,KY,TN.
Everyone is safe and sound.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:53 pm
by peterm
Be careful with your tornado chasing, Jeff; we want to see more of your models!

I'm glad you are ok...

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:24 pm
by Jeff Myers
don't worry had a professional chase team driving and navigating.. 100 yards is a bit close for comfort but hopefully this year is done for OK, I hope.. I did get some photos and vids of yesterday's chase though.