the house that never was... found in the web

To control SPAM, you must now be a registered user to post to this Message Board.

EFFECTIVE 14 Nov. 2012 PRIVATE MESSAGING HAS BEEN RE-ENABLED. IF YOU RECEIVE A SUSPICIOUS DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS AND PLEASE REPORT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION.

This is the Frank Lloyd Wright Building Conservancy's Message Board. Wright enthusiasts can post questions and comments, and other people visiting the site can respond.

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, *-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed). The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time they see fit.
Post Reply
guanche
Posts: 50
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:27 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain

the house that never was... found in the web

Post by guanche »

http://capitalcreativecollective.wordpr ... never-was/

take a look... to me was a very nice discovery... i hope to you too
Not too long ago, I went looking through my father’s attic for my children’s books. My son is of an age now to appreciate them and I thought that it would be such a treasure for him to read some of my books from when I was his age. To my amazement, I found another treasure, a piece of family history.



There was a box full of my dad’s concert posters and rock posters from the ‘60s, ranging from The Beatles to Jefferson Airplane. Within that same box was a slightly tattered, yellowed set of blueprints.



“These are THE house plans,� my dad said. “When your grandparents got married, they had an associate of theirs draw up some plans for a piece of land they bought in Boyle Heights, right by where Cal State L.A. is now located.�



My grandparents were a progressive young couple. The war had just ended, my grandfather got out of the army, got a transport to Los Angeles and chucked his heavy jacket in a waste bin at Union Station and never looked back. He was into acting and comedy and tried his talent in a few playhouses and befriended a few people in the business. Somewhere along the way he got connected to a young designer named Theo. Van Fossen. “Ted� had spent some time with Frank Lloyd Wright out in Arizona. This guy was a true bohemian. He was from the school of thought that believed becoming a licensed “Architect� would detract from his design. This was just the kind of guy my grandparents would have commissioned for the design of their home.



He would come to their house and spend all day with them, seeing how they lived. They would chat and have cocktails. There was probably a lot of smoking involved. But this was all part of the process. Ted would take clues from how they lived and leave them with the idea that Nature and dwelling are integrated and the organic geometries of Nature are the highest form of architecture. Frank Lloyd Wright spelled Nature with a capital “N�.



The design incorporates every Usonian ideal that Frank Lloyd Wright taught. Work with the contours of the land, orient the building for solar access, use earthen materials, and design for the people, not the cars. It was a small house and minimally decorated with a pattern of brick and concrete block that I can only describe as elegant as a chalk stripe suit. The building would have had significant thermal mass and easily accommodate radiant flooring.



Not until recently had there been such a housing boom. The City of Los Angeles practically grew overnight and many great designs and poor designs came along with it, but the concepts that Mr. Van Fossen and my grandparents had were not meant to be. My grandparents were newlyweds living from paycheck to paycheck. They would have to get a building loan for their project. Even a bank that was known for catering to immigrants and small businesses was not willing to finance their home. The loan officers said it was “Too modern.� My grandmother would curse those words for the next five decades until her death.



Mr. Van Fossen left L.A. soon after and ended up developing a village just outside of Columbus, Ohio, integrating the same design ideas he shared with my grandparents. The neighborhood went by under the radar until 2003, when it was awarded a National Historic Landmark status.



Surprisingly, Mr. Van Fossen is still alive, in his nineties, and working in Pennsylvania. He returns to his project in Ohio at least once a year to do a little consulting work. His alma mater, the New Bauhaus, now part of the Illinois Institute of Technology, keeps an archive of his work.



My dad let me keep the copy of the house plans. I guess I’m of an age now to appreciate them. I’ve written a letter to Mr. Van Fossen to thank him for being a part of my family history and forwarded a copy of the Merker Residence to be placed in the Van Fossen archives.
click the link to see (and to record) the drawings...
egads
Posts: 892
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:42 am
Location: Long Beach CA

Post by egads »

It is interesting that, every time I put out the theory that the lenders killed
off modern, I have been shot down. Here we have some evidence.
Paul Ringstrom
Posts: 4777
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:53 pm
Location: Mason City, IA

Post by Paul Ringstrom »

Just to clarify:

Theo. Van Fossen, while a follower of Wrightian design principles, was NOT an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright.
Wrightgeek
Posts: 1548
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:21 pm
Location: Westerville, Ohio

Post by Wrightgeek »

Paul-

You are correct that Van Fossen was not an apprentice to FLW. He was, however, involved in the consruction of Wright's Armstrong Residence in Ogden Dunes, IN in 1939-40. This was just prior to Van Fossen's first known commission in 1940, the Gunning Residence, which was designed and built in 1940 on the east side of Columbus, OH, and is now in danger of being demolished, as has been discussed in another thread here on Wright Chat.

"The House That Never Was" was supposed to be constructed in the Los Angeles area. I have found information about two residences in Southern California that were designed or redesigned by Van Fossen, and both are apparently still extant. See the links below.

http://www.wiehlecarr.com/wcap2_1.html

http://deasypenner.com/printable.php?property_ID=236
SDR
Posts: 22359
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:33 pm
Location: San Francisco

Post by SDR »

Edward Grenzbach ?

Thanks for that, Senor Guanche. Will this become your new home ? Would it be too much of a sacrilege, or a sacrifice, to modify the plan for a flat site ? Or would it be worth the trouble to exchange that for an appropriately graded one ?


Stephen
SDR
Posts: 22359
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:33 pm
Location: San Francisco

Post by SDR »

Van Fossen's Rush Creek Village is a part of this current thread:

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=4461

And the subject of these earlier threads:

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=2293

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=3797


SDR
guanche
Posts: 50
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:27 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain

Post by guanche »

Thanks for that, Senor Guanche. Will this become your new home ? Would it be too much of a sacrilege, or a sacrifice, to modify the plan for a flat site ?
i agree... a sacrilege to adapt literally a plan of another house to other site... so it will not be my new house

by the moment i have no idea (and money) to build during this year... but i pass to my friend-architect a few plans made by myself... and she said that was like to see a child made plans...

what could i do ???... i´m not an architect


anyway... i considered this house, like all the usonians that probably are archived and forgotten, like a treasure that must be showed to the rest of the people who love flw architecture and the principles of usonian style...

i think the usonian architecture is really well alive today... all the principles are so modern nowadays like they were in the past
SDR
Posts: 22359
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:33 pm
Location: San Francisco

Post by SDR »

It's true. . .

To my eye, on first sight, this "new old-stock" plan and elevations is more Wrightian than any of the houses at Rush Creek. I will enjoy looking more closely at it. Thanks so much for the treat. . .

SDR
Palli Davis Holubar
Posts: 1036
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:14 am
Location: Wakeman, Ohio

Post by Palli Davis Holubar »

Can anyone read the date on the plans? Any word on the Von Fossen monograph?
Wrightgeek
Posts: 1548
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:21 pm
Location: Westerville, Ohio

Post by Wrightgeek »

Last time I spoke with Darren Kelley, who is writing the Van Fossen/Rush Creek book, the photography for the book was being finished, and he was searching for a publisher. That was probably about 3 months ago, more or less.
Palli Davis Holubar
Posts: 1036
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:14 am
Location: Wakeman, Ohio

Post by Palli Davis Holubar »

YEA! THanks, tell him we are looking forward to it with glee!
Wrightgeek
Posts: 1548
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:21 pm
Location: Westerville, Ohio

Post by Wrightgeek »

I contacted the Illinois Institute of Technology archives dept. yesterday to inquire about the Ted Van Fossen archive mentioned in the "The House That Never Was" blog entry that started this thread. After I heard back from the IIT archives, I posted a comment on "THTNW" blog page about my findings. Check the link below to see my comment, and to see the original blogger's reply.

http://capitalcreativecollective.wordpr ... never-was/
SDR
Posts: 22359
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:33 pm
Location: San Francisco

Post by SDR »

Image

The House That Never Was -- rendering by Ian Merker



Image

Jacobs I by FLLW -- pine and redwood -- 1935



Image

House for Josehine Baker by Adolf Loos -- black and white marble
Unbuilt (1927)

‘No more original genii! Let us repeat ourselves again and again! Let one house look like
the other! Indeed for doing that one would not be published in the magazine “Deutsche Kunst
und Dekoration� and one would not be appointed to become professor at the arts and crafts college,
but one will have served one’s time, oneself and one’s people and humanity well.’

Adolf Loos, Vernacular Art (1914)
English translation in: Yehuda Safran (ed.), The architecture of Adolf Loos, An Arts Council Exhibition, p. 113
Wrightgeek
Posts: 1548
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:21 pm
Location: Westerville, Ohio

Post by Wrightgeek »

Ian Merker, the originator of the blog post that started this thread, was kind enough to share with me his own interpretated elevational rendering of Ted Van Fossen's plan for his heirs. I can only say that this is a great drawing by Ian, and that it is a shame that this design never saw the light of day.

Thanks to Ian for sharing the story of "THTNW", and for his awesome interpretation of the elevation of Ted Van Fossen's dramatic Usonian design. And of course, thanks to our own SDR, for bailing me out of my technical quandry and getting Ian's rendering up onto Wright Chat for all to savor.

As we all know here on Wright Chat, Stephen is the man!
SDR
Posts: 22359
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:33 pm
Location: San Francisco

Post by SDR »

I really like this drawing; I have to assume that Ian is a professional. The plant materials seem to be watercolor and the house itself is beautifully rendered. Maybe he will join us and we can learn more. . .

Stephen
Post Reply