Taliesin Legacy Projects thread

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:58 pm

Thought it might be good to have a single thread dedicated to all the various Legacy projects out there - pictures, links, discussions, etc. And perhaps we can create a running list tab - similar to what we did for the red signature tiles - with original client name and date, new client name and date, geographic location, etc.

For example:

Ralph Jester (1938) - Palos Verdes, CA / Arthur and Bruce Brooks Pfeiffer (1974) - Scottsdale, AZ

? (1956) / Bob Wright (2002) - Park City, UT - The Wright House

Gilbert Wieland (1959) (a/k/a - Erdman #2) / Marc Coleman (2007) - Greystones, Ireland

D.D. Martin Blue Sky Mausoleum (1928) / Forest Lawn Cemetery (2004) - Buffalo, NY - Blue Sky Mausoleum

Yahara Boat Club (1905) / Fontana Boathouse (2007) - Buffalo, NY - Frank Lloyd Wright's Rowing Boathouse

Chahroudi House (1950) / Joseph Massaro (2007) - Lake Mahoupac, NY

Gibbons Gray Cornwell (1954) - West Goshen, PA / Sandy Sims (1992) - Waimea, HI

Scully (1948) - CT / West House (1987) - Manassas, VA

Arthur Miller (1957) - CT / King Kamehameha Golf Club (1993) - Wailuku,HI - King Kamehameha Golf Club

Seth Peterson Cottage (1958) - Lake Delton, WI / Lovness Cottage (1976) - Stillwater, MN

Lovness Cottage C (1959) - Stillwater, MN / Unknown (2007) Square Lake, MN

Monona Terrace (1938 - 54) - Madison, WI / Monona Terrace (1997) - Madison, WI - Monona Terrace

Arizona State Capitol Spire (1957) - Phoenix, AZ / Arizona State Capitol Spire (2004) - Phoenix, AZ

Lewis N Bell (1939) / Feldman Residnece (1974) - Berkeley, CA

Southwest Christian Seminary (1950) / First Christian Church (1977) - Phoenix, AZ

? / Haddock Residence - Ann Arbor, MI

Nakoma Clubhouse (1924) - Madison, WI / Nakoma Resort & Spa (2002) - Lake Tahoe, CA

Lloyd Burlingame "Pottery House" (1942) / Bendheim House - Phoenix, AZ

Lloyd Burlingame "Pottery House" (1942) / Klotsche-Soiero Residence - Santa Fe, NM

Please feel free to sugest, add, subtract, change, modify and correct anything related to this.

David

Jeff Myers · Post by **Jeff Myers** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:49 pm

The State Capitol Spire in Phoenix, AZ might be one.....

Education Professor · Post by **Education Professor** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:26 pm

A few possible contenders:

Scully, CT (1948)......West House, VA (1987)

Cornwell, PA (1954)......Sims, Hawaii (1992)

Arthur Miller, CT (1957)......Kamehameha Golf Club, Hawaii (1993)

Seth Peterson Cottage, WI (1958).........Lovness Cottage, MN (1972)

Lovness Cottage C, MN (1959).............Unknown, Stillwater, MN (2007)

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:12 am

The Very Unofficial "PROJECTS-BUILT-FROM-ORIGINAL-WRIGHT-DESIGNS-POST-WRIGHT" List:

Yahara Boat Club (1902) - Madison, WI / Fontana Rowing Boathouse (2007) - Buffalo, NY - Frank Lloyd Wright's Rowing Boathouse

Nakoma Country Club (1924) - Madison, WI / Gold Mountain Country Club (2000) - Plumas County, CA - Nakoma Golf Resort

Tydol Gas Company Filling Station (1927) - Buffalo, NY / Frank Lloyd Wright Gas Station (2014) - Buffalo, NY
FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT GAS STATION

Blue Sky Burial Terraces (1928) - Buffalo, NY / Blue Sky Mausoleum (2004) - Buffalo, NY - Blue Sky Mausoleum

San Marcos Water Gardens (1929) - Chandler, AZ / Pinnacle Peak West Clubhouse (1983) - Phoenix, AZ - Paradise Peak West

Ralph Jester (1938) - Palos Verdes, CA / Arthur and Bruce Brooks Pfeiffer (1971) - Scottsdale, AZ

Lewis N Bell (1938) - Los Angeles, CA / Joe Feldman Residnece (1975) - Berkeley, CA - Feldman House article

Monona Terrace Civic Center (1938 - 55) - Madison, WI / Monona Terrace Community and Convention Center (1996) - Madison, WI - Monona Terrace

Faculty House - Florida Southern College (1939) - Lakeland, FL / Sharp Family Visitor's Center - Florida Southern College (2013) - Lakeland, FL - Building The Usonian House

Sidney Newman (1939) - Lansing, MI / John and Kay Berno House (2002) - Clifton, OH - Berno House article

Lloyd Burlingame "Pottery House" (1940) - El Paso, TX / Bendheim House (1981) - Phoenix, AZ - (demolished 2004)

Lloyd Burlingame "Pottery House" (1940) - El Paso, TX / Klotsche-Soiero Residence (1984) - Santa Fe, NM - Frank Lloyd Wright's "Pottery House" & Article on Klotsche "Pottery House"

Roy Petersen (1941) - Superior, WI / Whiteford-Haddock (1979) - Ann Arbor, MI

Vincent J. Scully, Jr. (1947) - New Haven, CT / West House (1984) - Manassas, VA

Ruth G. Keith (scheme #2) (1947) - Oakland County, PA / Wayne McBroom Cottage (2004) - Shenanndoah VA - McBroom Cottage article

Robert Windfohr (1949) - Fort Worth, TX & Arthur Miller (1957) - Roxbury, CT / Waikapu Valley Country Club (2000) - Maui,HI - King Kamehameha Golf Club

Chahroudi House (1950) - Petra Island, Lake Mahoupac, NY / Joseph Massaro House (2007) - Petra Island, Lake Mahoupac, NY - Massaro House wikipedia page

Southwest Christian Seminary (1950) - Glendale, AZ / First Christian Church (1972) - Phoenix, AZ - First Christian Church of Phoenix history timeline

Gibbons Gray Cornwell (scheme #1) (1954) - West Goshen, PA / Sandy Sims House (1995) - Kamuela, HI - Sims House article

George Dlesk (scheme #1) (1955) - Manistee, MI / Bob Wright House (2002) - Park City, UT - The Wright House

Gerald Sussman (1955) - Rye, NY / Frank Lloyd Wright in the Realm of Ideas - full scale exhibition model house (1986) - (discarded at end of exhibition run in 1990) - Article halfway down page

Arizona State Capitol Spire (1957) - Phoenix, AZ / Frank Lloyd Wright Spire (2004) - Phoenix, AZ - Frank Lloyd Wright Spire article

Seth Peterson Cottage (1958) - Lake Delton, WI / Donald E. and Virginia Lovness Cottage (1971) - Stillwater, MN - panoramic view of Lovness Cottage interior

Donald E. and Virginia Lovness (Cottage C) (1958) - Stillwater, MN / Christopher Ljungkull and James Seidl Cottage (2007) St. Croix, MN - images of Christopher Ljungkull and James Seidl Cottage

Gilbert Wieland (Erdman #2) (1959) - Hagerstown, MD / Marc Coleman House (2007) - Greystones, County Wicklow, Ireland - Coleman House article

I've decided to arrange the list in chronological order based upon Wright's plans. As time permits, I hope to be able to further refine the accuracy of the information. Please contribute any knowledge you may have - either here in the thread or in private to me - that can help improve what is already listed, as well as of any homes not yet a part of it. Thank you.

David

Jeff Myers · Post by **Jeff Myers** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:41 am

There might be more... I might send some photos to SDR that I took 2 years ago while I was at Taliesin West. There was a room there that had all these photos of the Monona Terrace and King Kamehameha Golf Club.

DRN · Post by **DRN** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:59 am

A version of one of Wright's "one-room" Usonian precursors to the Peterson Cottage appears to have been built in Shenanndoah, VA. The article (link below) notes the house was originally designed for a teacher in PA. (I don't have my Monograph handy..it was from the late '40's or early '50's and Wright did a couple of schemes..a hemicycle and the Peterson forerunner).
Story:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/h ... 42,00.html

Pics: (scroll down the right margin..there are 4 pics)

http://www.lindaspillersphotography.com ... and%20Home

List entry should read (we'll fill in the blanks with name/date gleaned from the Monograph:

xxxx Cottage (19xx) -Oakland County, PA / McBroom Cottage (2004)- Shenanndoah VA

BBuck · Post by **BBuck** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:07 pm

I traveled to Maui in September and visited the King Kamehameha Golf Club. "Blown-up" doesn't begin to describe it.

As I understand it, this was originally to be a home for Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe in Roxbury, CT. The Club web site mentions a 7,000 sq. ft. home that was to be built here in Fort Worth, Texas? 7,000 sq. ft. seems massive for a Usonian. A gentleman working the pro shop said the planned home to be around 3,600 sq. ft. Any insight for the planned building would be welcomed.

I've posted some pictures here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/howardcan/

BBuck

Wrightgeek · Post by **Wrightgeek** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:02 pm

David-

Here is a link to information about a Legacy program residence built in the Cincinnati area within the past decade.

http://www.cf3.org/site/content/view/43/33/

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:59 pm

Many thanks go to Paul Ringstrom, Jeff Meyers, Education Professor, DRN and Wrightgeek for supplying me w/ very useful information.

From the above list, here is what we are currently missing:

- which one of the five Lansing, MI FLW clients of 1939 was the design for the Berno House (2002) - Clifton, OH

- the original client for the Wayne McBroom Cottage (2004) - Shenanndoah VA

- the original FLW plan date for the Wayne McBroom Cottage (2004) - Shenanndoah VA

- the original client for the Bob Wright House (2002) - Park City, UT

- the original client city location in MI for the Bob Wright House (2002) - Park City, UT

- the original city location in MD for the Gilbert Wieland House (1959)

If anyone has the appropriate Monographs and/or any of the "Unbuilt" books (eg - BBF's, etc.) for any of the above homes and can find the missing information, please let me know.

David

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:25 pm

The Bob Wright House is based on the built design for Louis B. Fredrick (1954) in Barrington Hills, IL (S376) and Wm. Dlesk Project for Manistee, MI. Wright's versions seems to be blown out of proportion, like the overbuilt NM version of the Burlingame Project.

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:38 pm

Found the names of the potential choices of the five Lansing, MI clients for the Berno House (2002) - Clifton, OH:

- C. R. Van Dusen
- C. D. Hause
- Sidney Newman
- Alexis Pushin
- J. J. Garrison

David

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:44 pm

Thanks to some help from Roderick and Paul, we are now down to:

- the original client for the Wayne McBroom Cottage (2004) - Shenanndoah VA

- the original FLW plan date for the Wayne McBroom Cottage (2004) - Shenanndoah VA

- the original city location in MD for the Gilbert Wieland House (1959)

Oh, and we also need the build years for the Bendheim House - Phoenix, AZ and the Klotsche-Soiero Residence - Santa Fe, NM - each based upon the Lloyd Burlingame "Pottery House" (1942).

David

DRN · Post by **DRN** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:13 am

I looked up the cottage source for the McBroom (2004) house in Shenanndoah VA in Monograph 7:

Ruth G. Keith Scheme#2 (1947) -Oakland County PA

It would appear in a comparison of the pics of the built McBroom with Wright's presentation drawings for Ruth Keith, the built version is a mirror image of the original design and CMU has been substituted for the brick in the drawings. The built version seems pretty faithful otherwise right down to the band of vertically oriented perfs, and the horizontal mullions at the corner bay of the window wall.

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:26 am

And thanks to DRN and Paul, all that's left to find out are the build years for the Bendheim House - Phoenix, AZ and the Klotsche-Soiero Residence - Santa Fe, NM.

That is, unless there are more Legacy structures out there that haven't made the list yet? (I know of the gas station for the indoor museum in Buffalo, for one. But that has yet to be built).

David

Palli Davis Holubar · Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:38 am

To add a few additional details: The Berno Legacy Project did use the Newman, 1939 plan with some changes. It was one of several unbuilt designs for a small group of professors in that busy year at Taliesin. However the Berno perf is from the Schuck House designed for South Hadley MA. The Shuck House designs started in 1956 but the building plans they were given were revisions dated '58. The perf in Schuck plan was placed only in the gallery. The Newman House perf, as are most of the Lansing perfs, is very classical with one cut out shape that runs in continuous clerestory bands & also stacked 3 high on the SW & NW sides on the tower. There is also a particularly nice Newman feature of stacked perfs at the entry door. I suspect it looks much more interesting with the Berno's choice of the Schuck perf design than it would have looked with the Newman perf. The Schuck perf had to be elongated to fit the dimensions of that installation and their architect did it proud.

I hope someone can provide information about the Roy Peterson House Legacy for us. Peterson, 1941 has perfs of great interest to me.