For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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SDR
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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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The oak woodwork in this splendid home is rendered a uniform and rather bland tan, in these photographs at least. The furnishings shown are equally restrained. Can anyone suggest a livelier decorating scheme ? What furnishings would you use (to complement those provided by the architect) ? Could the works of a single designer fill the bill---perhaps with some custom pieces where none could be found to suit ?

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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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One monster of a house.
Agree with the "bland tan" critique. Hard to imagine Jones making that decision, but I know scant little about him.
All the power of the wood is cancelled by that move.
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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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Of course it's a wonderful house, EFJ completely carte blanche. Btw I missed it, but this was posted last year with the same images by a different realtor. Anyway, somewhat (if not completely) off topic, bear with me if you choose to. I couldn't help but be puzzled by the listing photos. Once past the first two obviously photographic images in the listing, the balance possess an odd quality, to me anyway, and I'm not convinced they aren't digitized and even possibly generated by the fast paced "scan" in the video listing, which is quickly scanned, rather than the typical visual tour made in oder to savor such a house.

I only say that, since the photos are copyrighted "OGAR"... is anyone familiar with this? A search resulted many "Ogars" but nothing specific for the acronym possibly related to building technologies or visuals. However, a bottomless pit of links easily reference what OGAR may be: The Open Gallery for Arts Research", as described in a number of abstracts and references as "a free, open-source tool for studying visitor behavior within an online gallery environment". Sounds innocent enough, right? Basically, it's a research tool widely used by multiple institutions and government departments, i.e., The National Institute of Health, major museums, and universities. It's safe to say the sole purpose is in order to perform psychological analyses of the public-I guess for whatever they feel there's a need....

So back to E. Faye Jones.... I'm simply curious how a research tool devised for "studying visitor behavior within an online gallery environment" might be related to a realtor for anything other than perhaps a visual tool (if indeed it is "that" OGAR being used in this case). One may also ask why in lieu of photos, unless the process somehow develops data. Most likely there is nothing to see here ("paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep" FWIW). I still posit these are not true photos, and find it interesting if someone involved with OGAR may be experimenting, at the least, with the visual aspect of real estate sales.

Appreciate anyone following this far, or has more to offer, and if interested the following link from Cornell University references a fifty page document extensively detailing the OGAR "tool":

https://link.springer.com/article/10.37 ... 22-01857-w
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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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From the linked paper:

"Perhaps the most well-known tool has been the Google Arts and Culture Project. First launched in 2011, Google Arts and Culture has since partnered with over 2000 major museums and cultural institutions around the world to create online simulations of entire museum spaces for free to both the partnering institution and online visitor (Google Arts and Culture Project, 2011; Proctor, 2011). Their process works by using a trolley system to take thousands of pictures of a museum’s interior and digitally stitching them together to create a 3D environment. Then, using software developed for Google Street View, users can navigate the space using a process known as animated interpolation, whereby a person clicks on a point in the distance and undergoes a smooth (“animated”) viewpoint transition (“interpolation”) from one point in space to the other (Moghadam et al., 2020). This method is somewhat akin to teleportation, but the position change is not instantaneous; instead, avatars are slid along a line from point A to point B."


Perhaps the realtors in question are piggy-backing on the technology for their own purposes ? Slightly scary is mention of nausea as a side-effect experienced by some in experimental use of that technology . . .!

As for how museums plan to sign on, I wonder if the result will in some cases follow the trend in culture and in society at large, to tell people how to look and what to feel, for their supposed benefit if not more concretely for those doing the presenting . . .

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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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I have to say that I don't see anything odd about the photos, beyond the customary distortion of proportion that makes ovals out of round objects, and exaggerates depth especially at the edges of the image. Jim, can you specify a bit what it is that catches your eye ?

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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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SDR wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:26 pm I have to say that I don't see anything odd about the photos, beyond the customary distortion of proportion that makes ovals out of round objects, and exaggerates depth especially at the edges of the image. Jim, can you specify a bit what it is that catches your eye ?

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Stephen... not "odd" as if unusual, and perhaps rather my excursion is indeed what's actually odd! All I can say is, I felt the OGAR I came across appeared to have a connection with the listing images, and I'm simply curious how and possibly why. I didn't actually notice or even pay attention to the credit for the images until after something "caught my eye" about them. Simply, to me, they immediately appeared digitized, rendered... or whatever. I thought, well, since the listing exterior images are certainly rendered (can we agree on that?) perhaps the others are as well.

I did note the "listing" OGAR may be something different than what I've been referencing (if not, then what?). If it is "the" OGAR, even without knowing the extent of its capabilities, it's quite clear the technologies associated are being used with visuals for psychological analysis... I'll only add, I thought my vision improved significantly after cataract surgery! :lol:
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Re: For sale: Fay Jones' Corcoran House - (Joplin, MO)

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Hmm . . . Thanks. It's usually possible to detect something unnatural in digitally-created images---a faulty texture, or lighting and reflections that aren't quite credible. I don't see that in the photos presented in the realty presentation. But I defer to your corrected eyesight ! (

My cataract surgery involved replacing the native lenses with flexible plastic ones. I have no complaints, beyond the loss of the ability of the lenses to change shape, as occurs in the natural eye when the brain asks it to focus on a subject close to the eye. Reading glasses are thus mandatory. Still, a blessing . . .)

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