David Hunt
David Hunt
I am building a 3D model of the David Hunt house. The drawing set I found on the Artstor / Avery Architectural & Fine Arts Library does not have an RCP.
There is an Electrical Symbols Legend on Sheet 3 Floor Plan. In this legend there is 'overhead lighting strip' with a note (see details SH#7). These details on are blurry, like most drawing on this site, and I cannot make out the dimension of this fixture. Also on the Floor Plan I see how the lighting strip is laid out. This seems like a lot of lights.
Can anyone help me with this? Thanks Steve.
There is an Electrical Symbols Legend on Sheet 3 Floor Plan. In this legend there is 'overhead lighting strip' with a note (see details SH#7). These details on are blurry, like most drawing on this site, and I cannot make out the dimension of this fixture. Also on the Floor Plan I see how the lighting strip is laid out. This seems like a lot of lights.
Can anyone help me with this? Thanks Steve.
Re: David Hunt
Hey Steve--
I think I can speak for the Chatters in that we're excited to see the David Hunt design in a 3D render!
We discussed the design a bit last year:
http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewto ... =2&t=14740
This is the Sheet in question?
https://library.artstor.org/#/asset/286 ... 8495242948
We've found that by expanding the image to full-screen, then zooming in, the definition of the image is usually adequate to read the notes. I've forwarded SDR a couple of zoomed-in screen shots.
(SDR has his own server, which he uses to host images on the Wright Chat.)
I think I can speak for the Chatters in that we're excited to see the David Hunt design in a 3D render!
We discussed the design a bit last year:
http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewto ... =2&t=14740
This is the Sheet in question?
https://library.artstor.org/#/asset/286 ... 8495242948
We've found that by expanding the image to full-screen, then zooming in, the definition of the image is usually adequate to read the notes. I've forwarded SDR a couple of zoomed-in screen shots.
(SDR has his own server, which he uses to host images on the Wright Chat.)
Re: David Hunt
Hi, Steve. Jay has kindly made screen shots of the two portions of drawings you made reference to.


To enlarge a drawing here, right-click on it and "Open image in new tab."
To enlarge drawings at Artstor, select the four-pointed arrow, then scroll to enlarge further.
Found this online re "Curtistrip." https://archive.org/details/CurtistripF ... p/mode/2up There's a 1938 date mentioned with respect to a Curtistrip lighting channel product.
Glad to hear you're modeling this unbuilt design ! Let us know how it goes, and if you need further help; we're happy to oblige.
S


To enlarge a drawing here, right-click on it and "Open image in new tab."
To enlarge drawings at Artstor, select the four-pointed arrow, then scroll to enlarge further.
Found this online re "Curtistrip." https://archive.org/details/CurtistripF ... p/mode/2up There's a 1938 date mentioned with respect to a Curtistrip lighting channel product.
Glad to hear you're modeling this unbuilt design ! Let us know how it goes, and if you need further help; we're happy to oblige.
S
Re: David Hunt
The Hunt lighting scheme would've been another novelty for the UA's...?
All the 'built' Usonian Automatics had embedded lights, as far as I know. The Sussman "Traveling Usonian Exhibit" had track lights, although with exposed bulbs like Jacobs 1... (The Hunt light fixtures, with their large rounded shades, would've been fairly ornamental, juxtaposed against the gridded UA ceiling..?)
Sussman:

Interestingly, Sussman then leaves the track lighting at the same height in the living room, while the ceiling expands. Was this due to the temporary nature of the model home itself? (Sussman drawings in Artstor have no electrical scheme):


All the 'built' Usonian Automatics had embedded lights, as far as I know. The Sussman "Traveling Usonian Exhibit" had track lights, although with exposed bulbs like Jacobs 1... (The Hunt light fixtures, with their large rounded shades, would've been fairly ornamental, juxtaposed against the gridded UA ceiling..?)
Sussman:

Interestingly, Sussman then leaves the track lighting at the same height in the living room, while the ceiling expands. Was this due to the temporary nature of the model home itself? (Sussman drawings in Artstor have no electrical scheme):


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Re: David Hunt
The lighting system remaining at the same height would be correct; it connects the two spaces of differing ceiling heights.
Re: David Hunt
Well I'm not one to say what is correct or not...The lighting system remaining at the same height would be correct; it connects the two spaces of differing ceiling heights.
Plenty of typical Usonians have light-decks that let the expanding ceiling grow above them.
However, none of the built Usonian Automatics do this, as far as I've seen.
They all seem to have embedded lights in their tall living room ceilings.... (or top perimeter edge like Tracy.)



Re: David Hunt
I don't recognize the third one, right off; it's not Tracy, is it ?
Photos of the traveling Usonian Automatic of the early 'nineties are exceedingly rare---an early instance of OSB architectural (display) construction ?


Photos of the traveling Usonian Automatic of the early 'nineties are exceedingly rare---an early instance of OSB architectural (display) construction ?


Re: David Hunt
Again, there is no RCP. do you think the ceiling squares are coffered? Since the ceiling is so low, I would guess they would be. And if so, do you think lighting similar to Kalil would be appropriatet?
Re: David Hunt
I'd think coffered ceiling squares are a safe assumption.
The lighting strip sits outside of the the blocks (like in the first picture of Sussman above). Except the fixtures have 8.5" rounded shades set into a 12" "brim" of what appears to be the aluminum bowl set around the bulb.
These strips run all over the house, affixed to the ceiling block, and it seems to be a highly peculiar feature of this design.
If you're shooting for accuracy, I'd try to include these strips and not anything similar to Kalil.
I'll do a high-res zoom in on Sheet#2 (in smaller sections) and see if SDR can post it, which hopefully will give more detail.
The lighting strip sits outside of the the blocks (like in the first picture of Sussman above). Except the fixtures have 8.5" rounded shades set into a 12" "brim" of what appears to be the aluminum bowl set around the bulb.
These strips run all over the house, affixed to the ceiling block, and it seems to be a highly peculiar feature of this design.
If you're shooting for accuracy, I'd try to include these strips and not anything similar to Kalil.
I'll do a high-res zoom in on Sheet#2 (in smaller sections) and see if SDR can post it, which hopefully will give more detail.
Re: David Hunt
Thank you so much Jay!
Re: David Hunt
You say that the, as I have been calling it, the "Saturn light" is aluminum? I made it and the windows and doors brass, because I made the concrete blocks sand color, to match the desert sand of Arizona. Should they all be aluminum and the concrete block gray?
Re: David Hunt
How do I attach pictures?
Re: David Hunt
Ahh okay, it says "Spun aluminum bowl, brass finish"....
Sounds pretty interesting!
Images have to be hosted elsewhere. Some people use Igmur, then embed the hosted photo on the thread.
Or you can email your images to SDR and he generously posts them for us.
His email is sdrdesignsdr @ gmail
Unless the drawings note a specific block color, I'd keep them gray-concrete by default... That's just my opinion.
Sounds pretty interesting!
Images have to be hosted elsewhere. Some people use Igmur, then embed the hosted photo on the thread.
Or you can email your images to SDR and he generously posts them for us.
His email is sdrdesignsdr @ gmail
Unless the drawings note a specific block color, I'd keep them gray-concrete by default... That's just my opinion.
Re: David Hunt
Again Jay, Thank you very much!
I have been building and rendering FLW houses and buildings for more than 2 years now.
3 built, Louis Penfield, Randall Fawcett and Toufic Kalil.
12 unbuilt, Adelman Laundry, George Prout, Glenn McCord, Thomas Lea, William Clifford, Gibbons Gray Cornwell, Roger Schwenn, Alex Wainer, Allen Zieger, Bramlett Enterprises Motor Hotel, Jack Hennessy and Nezam Ameri.
Building the unbuilt ones has become my passion. I have David Hunt, Walter Houston and St. Mark's Tower in-the-Bouwerie started.
All of my work has been posted on The Wright Attitude and The Wright Legacy Groups on Facebook.
I have also built 2 Dean Bryant Vollendorf Houses that I have posted on The Friends of Vollendorf Group on facebook.
I have been building and rendering FLW houses and buildings for more than 2 years now.
3 built, Louis Penfield, Randall Fawcett and Toufic Kalil.
12 unbuilt, Adelman Laundry, George Prout, Glenn McCord, Thomas Lea, William Clifford, Gibbons Gray Cornwell, Roger Schwenn, Alex Wainer, Allen Zieger, Bramlett Enterprises Motor Hotel, Jack Hennessy and Nezam Ameri.
Building the unbuilt ones has become my passion. I have David Hunt, Walter Houston and St. Mark's Tower in-the-Bouwerie started.
All of my work has been posted on The Wright Attitude and The Wright Legacy Groups on Facebook.
I have also built 2 Dean Bryant Vollendorf Houses that I have posted on The Friends of Vollendorf Group on facebook.
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Re: David Hunt
Well I hope we can get your projects shared here at Wright Chat...!
I quit Facebook sometime ago, but loved your Wainer project.
I quit Facebook sometime ago, but loved your Wainer project.