Frank LINCOLN Wright

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:21 pm

I just found on Ancestry a passport from 1922 where he lists his middle name as 'Lloyd' - but, gives his birthdate as June 8th, 1864.

His 1918 passport lists the birth year as 1867.

David

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Peter, I have asked just about everybody who ever knew FLW whose path I have crossed. No one close to him, including Eric, had ever heard of the Lincoln thing before Gill.

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:33 pm

Some more info via Ancestry:

- the 1870 and 1880 censuses only list his first name

- he applied for Social Security as 'Frank Lloyd Wright'

David

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:44 pm

Anyone know the name of the local church his parents attended when he was born?

David

SpringGreen · Post by **SpringGreen** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:03 pm

Thank you, Roderick. I thought that Gill came up with it, then looked at Secrest & she states it, so I was like, "Damn!" Because I trust her before Gill.

Oh, let me amend that: I trust her WAAAAAY before Gill.

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:08 pm

I have always held Ada Louise Huxtable in high esteem, until her little bio of FLW, where she does the same.

SpringGreen · Post by **SpringGreen** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:00 pm

Maybe it's just become part of the "truth" that people say. Just like "everyone" "knows" that Miriam Noel was a morphine addict because Secrest wrote that there were some signs pointing toward that.

Or that Carlton "sealed all of the doors at Taliesin" & murdered people as they ran out, I guess, 1 door during the 1914 murders (even though this contradicts what the survivors mostly said).

Or that Phillip Johnson said, about Wright, "I thought he was dead!" when they were talking about coming up with the Internaional Architecture show. Actually, Johnson later said he never stated that, but I haven't researched that enough.

Paul Ringstrom · Post by **Paul Ringstrom** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:35 am

https://www.amazon.com/Architects-Frank ... iam+Marlin

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:51 pm

Humphrey Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam."

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:29 pm

Of course not. His character never wants to hear that tune again. It's Ilsa (Ingrid Bergman) who says "Play it, Sam" . . .

SDR

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:24 pm

"Play it once, Sam, for old-time sake."

Rood · Post by **Rood** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:49 pm

The year 1967 was my first full summer at Taliesin, and the great event of that summer was Mr. Wright's birthday celebration, held on 8 June in the (cleared and decorated) draughting room at Hillside.

At one point that evening, Mrs. Wright rose and said a few words, among which was her announcement that according to recent research Mr. Wright was born not in the year 1869, as everyone had supposed, but in 1867.

1967 is a long time ago, now, but my memory suggests that the "research" was done by writer and historian Robert C. Twombly.

N.B. Oh, and DavidC ... Twombly lists the church as the "Richland Center Baptist Society". Mr. Wright's father had been traveling to the town to conduct services, according to Twombly, but he moved his family to Richland Center in May of 1867, just one month before Mr. Wright's birth.

RonMcCrea · Post by **RonMcCrea** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:07 am

What about the idea that Wright added "Lloyd" to his name as a teenager, after his father left, to indicate he was placing his allegiance with his Welsh grandfather's clan?

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:00 am

Rood wrote:... Twombly lists the church as the "Richland Center Baptist Society". Mr. Wright's father had been traveling to the town to conduct services, according to Twombly, but he moved his family to Richland Center in May of 1867, just one month before Mr. Wright's birth.

Thanks, Rood. I wonder if any of the historical records of the congregation survive anywhere?

To partially answer my above question, I just found this: Records and Histories of the Wisconsin Churches (specifically, 'Free Will Baptist Churches'). Where, if you scroll down about 3/4 of the way, it lists "Richland Center (Richland Co.)........(YEARS) 1867-1877........(CONGREGANTS)12-35........(QM)Sauk County.

I have contacted the Wisconsin Freewill Baptist Historical Society to see if they might be able to help in this matter.

David

SpringGreen · Post by **SpringGreen** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:51 am

I'd tried to reply to the question on where the correct birth year info comes from, but accidentally put it into another entry. The title of that is "Correct birth year".