Donald Trump, Donghia and interior design
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Roderick Grant
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If "fake news" is a reality, it's likely Slate is a contributor.
The Giuliani story is phony. He's in fine shape. I suspect Trump didn't want him in the administration, because Giuliani doesn't take crap from anyone, including Trump. If they crossed swords, Rudy wouldn't back down. One of Trump's most serious limitations is his unwillingness to yield.
The Giuliani story is phony. He's in fine shape. I suspect Trump didn't want him in the administration, because Giuliani doesn't take crap from anyone, including Trump. If they crossed swords, Rudy wouldn't back down. One of Trump's most serious limitations is his unwillingness to yield.
Though it is certainly left leaning, Slate's reputation for factual accuracy is excellent:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/
Or do you also claim that mediabiasfactcheck is itself biased and "fake"?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/
Or do you also claim that mediabiasfactcheck is itself biased and "fake"?
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Roderick Grant
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The Tower of Pisa is leaning; Slate is a mouthpiece for the far left. If it is deemed even-handed, or even reputable, I would question the veracity of MBFC. To assume fact-checkers are reputable is illogical. They too must be held to account, fact-checking the fact-checkers, so to speak. Some of them have been found wanting.
Mene mene tekel parsin.
Mene mene tekel parsin.
Roderick, Doesn't it bother you that President Trump has elevated a former far right media executive/political adviser(Steve Bannon) to the National Security Council and diminished the roles of the Director of National Intelligence and Joint Chiefs of Staff? Here is Michael Hayden (in his own words), who served in tops posts under both Republican and Democratic administrations:
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/30/512400246 ... il-changes
Don't you wonder why the countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Eygpt) where the terrorists from 9/11 originated (Fifteen of the 19 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Lebanon, and one was from Egypt) are exempt from Trump's immigration ban? Could it possibly be that he has business interests in these countries? Yes we need strong vetting policies, but to systematically exclude people from muslim countries makes us more susceptible to hatred and the possibility of an attack.
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/30/512400246 ... il-changes
Don't you wonder why the countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Eygpt) where the terrorists from 9/11 originated (Fifteen of the 19 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Lebanon, and one was from Egypt) are exempt from Trump's immigration ban? Could it possibly be that he has business interests in these countries? Yes we need strong vetting policies, but to systematically exclude people from muslim countries makes us more susceptible to hatred and the possibility of an attack.
Guadalajara architects vision of the Barragan inspired wall which Mexico will (not?) pay for:
https://www.dezeen.com/2016/10/20/donal ... tudio-314/
What makes it great is that it will incorporate a huge prison (actually, I prefer to think of it as a humane short term detention center, or "Joycamp"), too!
The pink shade might be a bit too "pussyhat". Maybe "Barragan pink" paint only on the Mexican side, with gold gilt on the U.S. side?
A few nasty details still need to be worked out to appease those whiny "snowflakes": Processing and mating centers for wildlife trapped on either side? Ah... much too expensive. It's important to prioritize our national security over a few lost species.
And how far will the wall extend into the Pacific? "Bad Hombres" could simply surf into American waters, taking refuge at Tapas and Margarita bars in Imperial Beach, Ca.
https://www.dezeen.com/2016/10/20/donal ... tudio-314/
What makes it great is that it will incorporate a huge prison (actually, I prefer to think of it as a humane short term detention center, or "Joycamp"), too!
The pink shade might be a bit too "pussyhat". Maybe "Barragan pink" paint only on the Mexican side, with gold gilt on the U.S. side?
A few nasty details still need to be worked out to appease those whiny "snowflakes": Processing and mating centers for wildlife trapped on either side? Ah... much too expensive. It's important to prioritize our national security over a few lost species.
And how far will the wall extend into the Pacific? "Bad Hombres" could simply surf into American waters, taking refuge at Tapas and Margarita bars in Imperial Beach, Ca.
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Roderick Grant
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Mod, as has been pointed out repeatedly by the Administration, and ignored repeatedly by the press, the 7 countries on the list are those that Obama put there, and the others, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, were all left off Obama's list, but Trump is looking into adding them. Now which is it? Do you object to the ban? Or are you complaining that it hasn't gone far enough?
As to the National Security Council, Trump is restructuring the entire mess in DC, which, apparently, the left have been supportive of as it was. A large chunk of the American electorate disagree. "Change" has been a winning watchword of every presidential race since 1960, and now finally a winner is following through on the pledge, much to his supporters approval. Whether it works or not will depend on events yet to happen. Taking a new approach can be frightening, but don't worry, we will survive.
As to the National Security Council, Trump is restructuring the entire mess in DC, which, apparently, the left have been supportive of as it was. A large chunk of the American electorate disagree. "Change" has been a winning watchword of every presidential race since 1960, and now finally a winner is following through on the pledge, much to his supporters approval. Whether it works or not will depend on events yet to happen. Taking a new approach can be frightening, but don't worry, we will survive.
Not sure if ABC has become another "mouthpiece for the left":
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... g-45160554
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... g-45160554
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Roderick Grant
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"Ha!" indeed. You would be hard pressed to find an even-handed article in Slate. When only one side of any argument is given, it is a form of propaganda, whether it comes from Slate, Huffpost, Think Progress, CNN, Vox, Fox, CNS, Breitbart, PJ or any other source. We are awash in propaganda.
Trump didn't start the wall. Not much was made of it when it first began construction by "W". Most of the complaining came from land owners along the route who found a fence dividing their property, making it impossible to get to the Mexican portion. Obama didn't extend the wall, but he increased by a "YUGE" degree the number of illegals deported back to Mexico. Six of one....
Since this wall is so opprobrious in your view, PM, what are your thoughts on the massive concrete walls segregating the Palestinians into virtual prisons, keeping them away from land the Israelis want to appropriate for their own use? What's the difference?
Walls don't work. That great one in China didn't. Ultimately the concrete wall in Berlin and that big Iron Curtain just forestalled the inevitable. The Mexican wall won't be any better; it's mainly a political device. The only correction to the situation is a political revolution in oligarchic Mexico that won't happen any time soon. The open boarder solution that Hillary favored would simply obviate immigration law entirely and create chaos. But if you have a better idea, what is it? Why just whine like an adolescent who isn't getting his way? Come up with a solution.
Trump didn't start the wall. Not much was made of it when it first began construction by "W". Most of the complaining came from land owners along the route who found a fence dividing their property, making it impossible to get to the Mexican portion. Obama didn't extend the wall, but he increased by a "YUGE" degree the number of illegals deported back to Mexico. Six of one....
Since this wall is so opprobrious in your view, PM, what are your thoughts on the massive concrete walls segregating the Palestinians into virtual prisons, keeping them away from land the Israelis want to appropriate for their own use? What's the difference?
Walls don't work. That great one in China didn't. Ultimately the concrete wall in Berlin and that big Iron Curtain just forestalled the inevitable. The Mexican wall won't be any better; it's mainly a political device. The only correction to the situation is a political revolution in oligarchic Mexico that won't happen any time soon. The open boarder solution that Hillary favored would simply obviate immigration law entirely and create chaos. But if you have a better idea, what is it? Why just whine like an adolescent who isn't getting his way? Come up with a solution.
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Roderick Grant
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...and so it continues!
Trump: "Only 109 out of 325,000 were DETAINED and held for questioning..."
ABC: "...nearly 400 green-card holders actually were DELAYED...."
"Detained" is serious, verging on arrest; "delayed" is a bump in the road on the way to baggage claim. This is how network news trims the truth.
The real chaos at the airports was caused by the demonstrators upset that they lost the election.
Trump: "Only 109 out of 325,000 were DETAINED and held for questioning..."
ABC: "...nearly 400 green-card holders actually were DELAYED...."
"Detained" is serious, verging on arrest; "delayed" is a bump in the road on the way to baggage claim. This is how network news trims the truth.
The real chaos at the airports was caused by the demonstrators upset that they lost the election.
Your point would be much better made if you could quote a more authoritative source for the number of detainees other than Mr. Trump himself. He has already proven himself to be a liar with zero credibility.
You also are forgetting to add the number of those simply denied entry altogether. I believe that actually the reason why folks were protesting, by the way.
You also are forgetting to add the number of those simply denied entry altogether. I believe that actually the reason why folks were protesting, by the way.
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ozwrightfan
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I normally would not comment on another countries politics, as I don't live in the US and it could be said "what in the hell would I know"?
However the last time I looked, the US is still a democratic country. Clinton and Trump were elected by their parties to represent those parties and they stood before the people with their policies and promises. Your system has given Trump the majority of the votes, so he is your elected President. Shouldn't you now stand behind your President and give the guy a fair go?
It seems to me that the people demonstrating in the streets are Clinton supporters and people who didn't vote, in other words, sore losers and lazy buggers.
However the last time I looked, the US is still a democratic country. Clinton and Trump were elected by their parties to represent those parties and they stood before the people with their policies and promises. Your system has given Trump the majority of the votes, so he is your elected President. Shouldn't you now stand behind your President and give the guy a fair go?
It seems to me that the people demonstrating in the streets are Clinton supporters and people who didn't vote, in other words, sore losers and lazy buggers.
OZ,
I'll probably catch hell for this, but Clinton supporters write checks and sip wine at well heeled fund raisers (with the exception of the safety of the women's march). The folks in the streets are Bernie supporters who were denied a fair shot at trump; millennials, many of who, having discovered their voter registrations had either been changed or disappeared in the primary, have been dealt a bad hand of high college debt and multiple part time jobs with no benefits to try to pay them off; environmentalists alarmed by the lack of action by both parties (you might recall Clinton wouldn't take a stand on fracking or the DAPL pipeline-Standing Rock); and no protest is complete without your friendly black bloc anarchists.
I'll probably catch hell for this, but Clinton supporters write checks and sip wine at well heeled fund raisers (with the exception of the safety of the women's march). The folks in the streets are Bernie supporters who were denied a fair shot at trump; millennials, many of who, having discovered their voter registrations had either been changed or disappeared in the primary, have been dealt a bad hand of high college debt and multiple part time jobs with no benefits to try to pay them off; environmentalists alarmed by the lack of action by both parties (you might recall Clinton wouldn't take a stand on fracking or the DAPL pipeline-Standing Rock); and no protest is complete without your friendly black bloc anarchists.