Villino Belvedere

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Tom
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Villino Belvedere

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Gary showed me how he gets images into WrightChat. I'm testing it out here.

I was able to Google locate where Wright and Mamah lived above Florence thru Alofsin's The Lost Years.
Here are some screenshots.
You can see Florence below and the Duomo.
Picturesque spot.

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Thanks Gary. It works like a charm!

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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This is also the place where Wright and Taylor Woolley drew the Wasmuth plates.

SDR
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Re: Villino Belvedere

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So, what's Gary's secret ? If it doesn't involve the use of a web host, I (and others here) would be very interested to know what it is.

We have had discussion of this villa before, and it would be good to be able to connect the two threads. Darned if I can find it, though . . .!

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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FLW called St. Peter's Basilica "Michelangelo's Bastard." I bet he didn't feel that way about Brunelleschi's Dome.

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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SDR wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:37 am
So, what's Gary's secret ? If it doesn't involve the use of a web host, I (and others here) would be very interested to know what it is.
I will PM you what he sent me. Really whiz bang easy peasey. But it depends upon uploading images first to Flickr which may act as the "webhost" in this case. Which is what I was assuming because of what you have said.
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Tom
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Roderick Grant wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:13 pm
FLW called St. Peter's Basilica "Michelangelo's Bastard." I bet he didn't feel that way about Brunelleschi's Dome.
Totally agree and come to think of it - that seems like a valid judgement. Brunelleschi's has none of the cake icing decoration character about it. Just muscle and form.

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Three shots from Taylor Woolley in the University of Utah Archives sent by Mark Borthwick.
Makes me wonder who had just been seated at the table:

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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Trivial trivia: At the time FLW and Mamah were living in Fiesole, their neighbor was Leo Stein, Gertrude's brother. Perhaps he was the expected guest?

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A link to an earlier Chat discussion about Wright and Fiesole:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11695&hilit=Fiesole

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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Thanks, did not know these other threads existed.

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Always search; there's usually something back there somewhere, and it's nice to keep like information together---by linking, at least. I don't like rules, but that's a good one. (Wouldn't it be amazing if that happened automatically ?) :idea:

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Quarterly Summer 1994 Vol 5 No 3

ImageFreisol Italy 1909 - Quarterly 1994

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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How is it that houses in Italy last generations at least, if not centuries. In Seattle they are tearing down anything small and replacing it with a McMansion. Does Italy just prohibit tear downs?

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Re: Villino Belvedere

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Blame it in part on the 1871 Chicago Fire. To recover quickly, developers invented the balloon frame structure, which, with some modifications, still rules. American houses are built with spit and a promise. There are places in Europe where this has caught on, but not many. Ireland has had suburbs of such flimsy structures that will probably be as transitory as American houses, but most European buildings were constructed to last, at least prior to WWII.

I met a man from the "new side" of a small town in England, only 400 years old, while the old side was 800. Italians are surrounded by bits and pieces of Roman structures 2,000 years and older. They are probably used to the old ways. But I wonder if new, post-war construction is as substantial as Villa Belvedere?

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