Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

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jshan99
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Re: Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

Post by jshan99 »

I believe these windows to be Elmslie and not FLW.
I found a close example listed here:
https://www.archantiques.com/sold-2020- ... inet-doors

outside in
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Re: Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

Post by outside in »

interesting, Wright evidently sent the window pattern for the hunt house to Brigham for his house in Glencoe.

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Re: Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

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It would appear so; here is an entry from the Brigham file at Artstor:

https://library.artstor.org/#/asset/285 ... 3278623885

As for the previous post, I'm in the dark as to relevance. And the seller's page doesn't specify how many windows are (were) being offered . . .!

S

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Re: Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

Post by jshan99 »

I think the discussion got off track a bit. The original question was asking on the attribution of the live auctioneers windows claiming to be from the Munkwitz apartments and designed by FLW. I would say "no" because none of the pictures or drawings of the apartments provided show the windows or anything close.
I found an example of almost a style copy of the window stating to be from Elmslie. I am wondering if anyone can confirm this or the window on archantiques.com is mis-identified as well?
Does anyone here have deep knowledge of Elmslie windows? I have the 2 main books about Purcell & Elmslie but I do not see this style of window listed. There are some close examples, but nothing definite.

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Re: Arthur R. Munkwitz duplex apartments windows

Post by SDR »

Thanks for that clarification, jshan. While we have not yet seen (I think) fabricated copies or emulations of Prairie-era glass that is fraudulently presented as genuine, we have certainly seen objects like this (these ?) windows misrepresented---intentionally or otherwise. (In the past several years a number of letters, postcards and the like--even Wright drawings--have appeared on the market, wholly fabricated to appear as genuine Taliesin ephemera. One awaits with trepidation the forging of furniture and other items presented as original works.)

If you have looked closely for windows in Elmslie that match these, and have come up empty-handed, I suspect that they will not be found. For every genuine Wright, Purcell & Elmslie, or other significant designers' art glass, there are hundreds or thousands of anonymous emulations spread across the land. I have repeatedly written to vendors who present such items, asking if they can verify the authenticity of objects proffered as historic; responses vary. Last week we were gratified to find that a table presented as belonging to the Hanna family was indeed genuine (though its designer remains unverified).

We have learned in recent times that the credulousness of the public, in this country at least, cannot be overestimated. Let us be prepared to defend history when necessary, in the spirit of architectural preservation ?

S

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