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Tom
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Auldbrass Video

Post by Tom »

May have already been posted.
First time I've seen it.
Silver says, matter of factly, that he is going to build the guest house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-Fax5 ... gs=pl%2Cwn

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Post by Roderick Grant »

I encourage people to go to Joel's movies so he can continue working on Auldbrass. There have been some spectacular restorations in the past 30 or so years, but none of the buildings restored started out in such a derelict condition as Auldbrass. What Joel has done is truly spectacular.

And so too, Storer. The condition of Storer when Joel bought it was not as far gone as Auldbrass, but it was not good. A previous owner (an artist!) had painted the interior blocks blue on the first floor and yellow in the living room (or the other way around, I don't recall, but it burned the retinas). The owner following her dug up the ground floor with the intention of building a basement under the house for his primal scream therapy sessions. When that fell through, a blank slab was poured where the block floor had been. Instead, he built a plywood door to close off the living room from the stair hall. Joel's restoration was impeccable.

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Storer is my favorite Textile Block house by far---granting that I've seen none of them in person. The Storer, and its predecessor the C P Lowes project, strike me
as an ideal embodiment of the two-floor volume with exposure on its opposing elevations---a form one associates with industrial rather than domestic structures ?

(Schindler's second scheme for Lowes anticipates Wright's. What is the history there ?)

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Post by Roderick Grant »

I suspect FLW included the plaster Lowes Project in Wendingen, because he didn't like the Storer block version. The FLW project preceded RMS's Lowes House. After Lowes turned down FLW's scheme, they turned to RMS, who had just left FLW's employment. Rudi designed an unusual variation on the first scheme, with a somewhat tortured circulation plan and some curious cubistic details. Unfortunately, there are few interior shots of the house.

In the 50s, Lowes got in the way of progress, and was demolished to make way for a freeway. Long-time Gamble House Director, Randall Makinson, salvaged the hood over the living room fireplace, and years later, integrated it into a house he designed for himself.

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I was surprised and a bit saddened to read (Sweeney, p 67) that Wright considered Storer a "tradgedy" [sic] upon its completion. One disappointment was
apparently a jumble of block patterns on the interior, in particular near the fireplace(s) (where modifications were made during construction, perhaps at the
client's request) according to Sweeney. I find the forms so satisfying---the asymmetrical fireplace mass within the symmetrical building envelope, for instance---
that surface patterns hardly matter---to me.

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Another detail that I like is the second-floor "tray" that appears (on the section drawing, at least) to float within the tall volume, supported on
hefty cross-beams. In the drawing the parapets of this tray are solid panels---or the section is inexplicably taken through its posts---while in
actuality they read more like highway guard-rails, thick posts and rails of block, the posts occurring at the center of each opening rather than
aligned with the columns, with which the rail is engaged.


Pfeiffer affords a generous amount of space in Monograph 4 to this house, including black-and-white and color photos as well as the usual
plans, elevations and sections . . .



Image


Image

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Post by Roderick Grant »

I agree that Storer is a magnificent house with a spectacular view from the living room. If I were to choose between it and the Lowes version, I would pick Storer.

I imagine that FLW's beef with the house is its heaviness, which sets it apart from Millard, Ennis and especially Freeman.

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Post by SDR »

I'm puzzled by what appears in the photo above: no section drawing shows a portion of the roof rising above the rest, at the end of the house opposite the bedrooms . . .

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Go to Google Maps, 3D. The center of the roof, from end to end, rises from a ceiling height of 8'0" to 10'8", extending 4' beyond over the access to the roof terraces at either end of the living room. In Taschen 2, page 113 it can be seen in the perspective, and in the construction photo on page 109, a glimpse of it shows. But you are correct, it does not show in the drawings.

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Post by SDR »

Oh; the photo on p 111 explains it, too. Wonder when that happened to the design.

Pfeiffer is very generous with the images of this house---in the Monograph and in Taschen---but the Schulman photo of Joel Silver's Secessionist silver is odd. Don't tell me that's Wright's, too . . .

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Post by Rudder »

SDR wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:33 pm
I was surprised and a bit saddened to read (Sweeney, p 67) that Wright considered Storer a "tradgedy" [sic] upon its completion. One disappointment was
apparently a jumble of block patterns on the interior, in particular near the fireplace(s) (where modifications were made during construction, perhaps at the
client's request) according to Sweeney. I find the forms so satisfying---the asymmetrical fireplace mass within the symmetrical building envelope, for instance---
that surface patterns hardly matter---to me.

S
Don’t take Sweeny seriously. He had a feud going on about lack of access to the storer house at that point. Rather vindictive.

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SDR wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:36 pm
Another detail that I like is the second-floor "tray" that appears (on the section drawing, at least) to float within the tall volume, supported on
hefty cross-beams. In the drawing the parapets of this tray are solid panels---or the section is inexplicably taken through its posts---while in
actuality they read more like highway guard-rails, thick posts and rails of block, the posts occurring at the center of each opening rather than
aligned with the columns, with which the rail is engaged.


Pfeiffer affords a generous amount of space in Monograph 4 to this house, including black-and-white and color photos as well as the usual
plans, elevations and sections . . .



Image


Image
That “guard rail” was there since originally the floor was to be open to the first floor but that designed was changed during construction due to the impracticality of it.

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Re: Auldbrass Video

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Could someone share us Auldbrass plans please? or where is the topic where I can found it.... By the way about the clip of Auldbrass restoration, the owner wanted to build the addition designed by Wright. The video is from 2015.. Does anyone knows what happened?

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Re: Auldbrass Video

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Go here and you'll eventually find plans, as well as many, many photographs:

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AOa ... =969&dpr=1

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Re: Auldbrass Video

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Search Wright Chat for "Auldbrass" and find 24 pages of links to previous mention or discussion---359 hits.

Buncha drawings and other goodies, here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9709

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