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by g.dorn
Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:26 am
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Topic: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house
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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Your sketch section raises the question, "How can members oriented north-south be continuous, if they must cross in the same plane continuous members oriented east-west . . .?" "Rafters" would normally be members crossing the walls; those parallel to the walls would be---what---...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:14 pm
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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

internal view of gallery doors
posts are quite deep

ImageFrank Lloyd Wright's Goetsch-Winckler House by Alan Prather, on Flickr
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:05 pm
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vented eave outside bedroom to lanai https://live.staticflickr.com/5525/12095347876_173ca3a9ac_4k.jpg Frank Lloyd Wright's Goetsch-Winckler House by Alan Prather , on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/7365/12095348986_9dba466f00_4k.jpg Frank Lloyd Wright's Goetsch-Winckler House by Alan Prather ,...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:59 pm
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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

updated section detail of possible kitchen eave

(very rough sketch)
ImageGW kitchen eaves detail by g dorn, on Flickr
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:42 pm
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<snip> Wonder what is causing the upward curve in the middle of the long roof line above the walkway in this shot. I see it in a lot of other photographs too. To me this curving of the fascia coincides with the location of the big steel beam that Mr Turner installed over the kitchen windows (and co...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:00 pm
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There is quite a decent header in the studio clerestory framing too. - I quite like this photos , it shows the unit heights of everything.

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by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:58 pm
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and this photo shows the difference between eh carport steeped fascia and bedroom stepped fascia can also see the Studio/living room fascia - been looking for that view! Its amazing what photos you can find, the more your look - internet - what a wonderful thing! https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/20...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:46 pm
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and his photo clearly shows a thin head of the windows in the kitchen relative to the carport ceiling - add in more evidence that the kitchen roof is 2 x 8 framing https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2018/02/19/MIGroup/Lansing/636546433667138079-180215-goetsch-winckler-house-02c.jpg?width=1280 entry a...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:42 pm
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This photo suggests that the the bottom step in the roof eave for the alcove is also the header for the windows - https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2018/02/19/MIGroup/Lansing/636546434815929443-180215-goetsch-winckler-house-07a.JPG?width=1280 and internal showing alcove header over clerestory window...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:28 pm
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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Could this mean that the bedroom and entry gallery rafters are only 2- 4 x 2" = 200mm which is why Mr Turner installed steel flinch plate on every 2nd rafter ( on 4ft/ 1200 grid) If this is the case then the bedroom eaves is only stepped once, not twice. The section drawings of the workspace in...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:38 pm
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(That's a 6" difference from the interior ceiling, which is not possible unless the lower 2X4 is eliminated from the interior portion of the joist. This might be the case. Interior shots of the kitchen show a 4" to 6" wood cased header above the kitchen clerestory glass. That header ...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:26 pm
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Am I correct in my understanding that the open grill and stepped out brickwork? means there is a void behind - under the planter and studio corner where the hydronic floor heater system is ?

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by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:10 pm
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In this photo If you open it up and then zoom into the the junction of the brick fireplace mass corner and the facias of the 2 roofs ( carport and alcove) , i can see they are at different heights ( using brick coursing as a visual guide) https://i.pinimg.com/originals/45/0b/2b/450b2bb305e33e52abd7d...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:49 pm
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If the entry to the basement is from the carport tool shed, is the basement then under the kitchen, under the carport slab, or under the alcove the door handle appears to be on the right, thus steps going down towards the street, therefore fore I reckon its under the carport! well actually the owner...
by g.dorn
Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:04 pm
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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

plate 13 says alcove ceiling height 6'11" same as gallery ( entry)

6'11" = 83" = 2108mm at units 6 units makes each unit 1'1.76" = 13.83" = 351mm approx each.