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JChoate



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:36 pm    Post subject: Monograph set with annotations by Howe Reply with quote

Look at the text in this description -- it's a set of monographs where Jack Howe hand wrote notes about which apprentices did which drawings.
It seems like potentially valuable info for scholars

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DRN



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Priceless.
I'd like to see a second edition made with JHH's notations.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. In the meantime -- who can we prevail upon to purchase this set ?


Page 20, Mono 5:



Could this be the "#28 in 1937" mentioned ?


Who sold this to Alcuin Books ? Pfeiffer himself ?

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DavidC



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it was stated in the "Item Description" that Howe client William Krebes purchased the set and then had Howe notate it, the best guess might be that it came from his estate?


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SDR



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah -- of course.

Redleaf's living room is illustrated on pages 10 and 149 in "John H Howe, Architect"; this seems to be the extent of coverage of the house for this important friend and client. Krebes, another WWII conscientious objector, met Howe as a student in his furniture design class at Sandstone, the Federal Correctional Institute. Other Krebes commissions are examined in the book as well . . .

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JChoate



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR, I bet you're right about the Rehbuhn drawing. It looks like FLW wielded the pink pearl with gusto. In particular, it looks like the living room trellis got the once over. The foliage also looks a little worse for wear. I wonder what led to the lower left corner being removed.
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Reidy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who did which drawings is valuable information (which I thought we already had, at least for the familiar ones from the Fellowship period). Even more valuable would be what Howe could have told us about who played what part in the design of the buildings.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two photos of the Krebes House living room in Hession and Quigley's book on Jack, pp 10 and 149. Exquisite, tidy design.

Knowing who did the drawings is interesting, but forking over 10 grand is a bit much. A lot of that information is included in Geiger's archive, much of which he got from Besinger, as good a source as Howe. Some delineators, such as Howe, Besinger and Davison, are obvious at a glance.

The Rebhuhn House drawing is typical FLW, especially the landscaping.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah -- but how accessible is Geiger ?

No one in Wright's drafting room(s) could know more about the drawings than Howe: he was present continuously from 1932 to 1959 and beyond -- absent only for three years (1943-46) at Sandstone. Besinger was there, on and off, from 1939 to 1955.

Attribution continues to vex. This set of Monographs is a priceless resource . . .

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JChoate



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was looking at the webpage for the monographs in question, I saw that they are being offered by a bookseller located in Scottsdale, which is ironically close to T West (former location of the Wright archives).

Now that the FLW archives are mostly at Columbia University, I would think Columbia would be able to afford to add these Howe-annotated books to their collection so as to capture all that information alongside the mother lode. That's what makes sense to me.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything but to have them disappear again into a private collection . . .

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DRN



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or worse, to be split up and sold anonymously when the seller tires of no movement of the lot for sale.
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Matt



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the 10 grand. Just give me an hour with the set and I'll photograph all the annotated drawings. It's the information that's important to preserve. Didn't Geiger have...I think...Bessinger annotate a document in the same way?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly. My wish would be only to have access to the set long enough for those photos to be secured.

I have only two of the volumes -- and they have suffered at my hand, in sharing contents here:




So, clearly I should't be entrusted with a pristine set !

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