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John



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: World Heritage Site bid fails this year Reply with quote

World Heritage Committee meeting in Istanbul votes to refer USís Frank Lloyd Wright World Heritage Nomination for Action in a later year
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

17 Le Corbusier works named as UN Heritage Sites:

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36820119 17 July 2016
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a shame. FLW was more significant in world architecture than le Corbusier in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps someone could fill us in on what the designation would entail. Is this a declaration of significance on the part of an architect, without reference to any particular building or project ?

What are the five W's, here: Who, What, Where, When, Why . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing the jury saw Le Corbusier as having more of a direct global influence on architecture than Wright. Wright influenced the European modernists to an extent, but it is unclear how much of that was taken in by LC. What LC did, and how it was taken up by those that followed in many parts of the world may have been the factor that won this round.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:51 am    Post subject: Designation Reply with quote

I'm perhaps not the one to lay out all the details as I am sure the Conservancy can and will do. There was a complete presentation given at the last Conference.
In short, I believe 10 buildings of Wrights were chosen to represent his work and to be designed World Heritage sites.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:
Perhaps someone could fill us in on what the designation would entail. Is this a declaration of significance on the part of an architect, without reference to any particular building or project ? What are the five W's, here: Who, What, Where, When, Why . . . SDR



A UNESCO World Heritage site is a natural or man-made site, area, or structure recognized as being of outstanding international importance and therefore as deserving special protection. For instance, Mexico has 34 sites on the list (including the house and studio built by architect Luis Barragan in 1948), whereas the USA has but 23. For a list of sites around the world, go here, and scroll down a bit:

http://www.whc.unesco.org/en/list

Also ... Le Corbusier structure on the list are located in Argentina, Belgium, France, Germany, India, Japan, and Switzerland.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. So, the tabling this year of a Wright nomination must have concerned one or more Wright sites ? Is it known what they are ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a long process, and we're only part way there. Keep in mind that it took a decade to get to the point where the Dept of the Interior was willing to submit the sites to UNESCO in the first place. The Le Corbu group needed three World Heritage Committee meetings to get their approval, so coming out of the first one with a recommendation one step below inscription should be seen as positive for the Wright submission. That said, the ICOMOS report on the submission, foundation for the Committee recommendation, was fairly critical of the submission, questioning both the specific sites selected and the lack of any real thread tying them together - they were accused of being a "FLW Greatest Hits package" rather than a cohesive submission. I suspect the focus of the new package preparation will be both a search for that common thread, as well as a review and possible shuffling of the sites, with some going and others coming (I'm looking at you, Johnson Wax ... )
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1519/

See bottom of page, item 14.

Still looking for a news item that might have prompted the original post . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1519/

See bottom of page, item 14.

Still looking for a news item that might have prompted the original post . . .

SDR


Try this ...

http://www.usicomos.org/world-heritage-committee-meeting-in-istanbul-votes-to-refer-uss-frank-lloyd-wright-world-heritage-nomination-for-action-in-a-later-year/

The one thing I'd be interested in knowing is which four sites were recommended for immediate inscription outside of the set (a failed recommendation).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Heritage Committee Members
According to the World Heritage Convention , a Committee member's term of office is for six years, but most States Parties choose voluntarily to be Members of the Committee for only four years, in order to give other States Parties an opportunity to be on the Committee. All Members elected during the two last General Assemblies (2009 and 2011) have voluntarily decided to reduce their period of term of office from six to four years.

The 21 States Parties of the current World Heritage Committee are the following:

Angola, Azerbaijan, Burkina Faso, Croatia, Cuba, Finland, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Tunisia, Turkey, United Republic of Tanzania, Viet Nam, Zimbabwe
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 21 States Parties of the current World Heritage Committee are the following:

Angola, Azerbaijan, Burkina Faso, Croatia, Cuba, Finland, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Tunisia, Turkey, United Republic of Tanzania, Viet Nam, Zimbabwe


Seeing this list, I can see how Le Corbusier's work may have more resonance with the committee making the selection, particularly if LC's work was considered previously and its proposal may have been revised per previous jury comments.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Stan's linked page answered most of my questions. A remaining one: why are most of the current World Heritage Committee parties second- and third-world nations ? How often do developed nations take part ? Please note that I have no brief against the current roster . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First a quibble: "Functionality" is to "Function" what "Irregardless" is to "Regardless." The habit of casually messing with the language must stop.

I am not a big fan of the United Nations in general. It is fundamentally a big, expensive club of fulminating blowhards signifying nothing. It should at the least (if not abandoned entirely) be pared down to eleemosynary functions such as UNICEF and WHO, dispensing with all political and military agencies, especially the arrogant Security Council, with its 5 permanent members (France? Really?), and even social presumptions, like UNESCO. Unless making the grade with UNESCO's list of notables comes with a bundle of cash to maintain the fragile structures, exactly what is the need of being on the list at all? It's like choosing favorites, whether Corbu or Wright, blue over red, Oreo over Hydrox. Pointless.
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