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DavidC



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:48 am    Post subject: Article: Haynes House owner seeks de-listing Reply with quote

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Owner wants home taken off historic list


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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Herber says in the petition he has become disabled and cannot afford repairs and might need to make external modifications. He contends he was misled in listing the house."

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the history of the property in the past decade, I wouldn't be surprised if he planned to put a giant wall around the house so no one could look at it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bizarre...

What sort of "repairs" would he not be allowed to make? "External modifications"? "Confidential"?

Is it possible that he wants to build an additional structure on the lot for increased rental revenue, or heaven forbid, add a couple of extra bedrooms?

Or... He wants to sell, and assumes the property will command a higher price if there were no longer restrictions in place which would be present under the historical status?

Are there greater restrictions on a property if it is covered by a "local historic district" than The National Register of Historic Places?

The street view shows that the property has virtually no privacy. Could the historical status prevent landscaping, fences or walls?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/3901+N+Washington+Rd,+Fort+Wayne,+IN+46804/@41.0713476,-85.191001,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8815e69d347dfaa9:0xbe4d0ca0776b5dc?hl=en-us

I also noticed that his rental website no longer exists, though this site for private dinners at Haynes is still online:

http://kneedachef.com/Frank_Lloyd_Wright_Dinners.html#.Vss5TvBOKrU
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterm wrote:
Bizarre...

What sort of "repairs" would he not be allowed to make? "External modifications"? "Confidential"?


Assuming we accept the statement of being disabled at face value, it could be wheelchair ramps or various modifications to facilitate wheelchair access inside (we are talking about a usonian here). Anyone who has been inside Laurent knows how much larger it is inside to accommodate the chair.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The modifications needed to the exterior are but one: Landscaping!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/32-accessibility.htm

The opportunity to make properties wheelchair accessible already exists, doesn't it?
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haynes doesn't have any steps to negotiate at the entrance or inside. The problems to conquer for wheelchair accessibility are three 24" doors into the two bathrooms. The hall is more than 3' wide, so that wouldn't be a big problem.
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peterm



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But why would the historical status in any way prevent any type of disabled accessibility?
I can't help but think he has something else in mind...
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egads



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you suppose he slipped on a golf ball?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh. That takes us back ! I wonder if our Search function would reveal the episode in question . . .

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peterm



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The search function is alive and well:

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=3970&highlight=golf
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wright home keeps historic designation


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peterm



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some things never change...

"During an at-times contentious public hearing at Citizens Square, the owner of the property, Richard J. Herber, threatened to sue the commission and left the hearing uttering obscenities."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has filed numerous suits in the past for all kinds of cases. He tends to file small claims actions (meaning he does not hire a lawyer), which probably would not be available here.
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