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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another disturbing trend is "I's," homonym of "eyes," and meaning "my." Where that came from is a puzzlement. I even heard a senator use it when interviewed about hurricane Katrina.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we’re concerned about disturbing trends in linguistics:

https://youtu.be/phsU1vVHOQI
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lord, Peter, get off the soap box. Take up gardening.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh . . touchy-touchy. A laugh a day keeps the doctor away -- and our guy is good for a laugh, no ?

Very Happy
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peterm



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roderick Grant wrote:
Good lord, Peter, get off the soap box. Take up gardening.


My dear friend, the subject of the devolution of the English language is addressed by you far more than by anyone else on this site. As a matter of fact, just today on another thread you expressed from your soapbox grave concern that youngsters no longer know how to speak the language properly. You mentioned an unnamed senator; I responded by sharing a linguistic scholar’s assessment of the laughable, preadolescent speech patterns of the commander in chief.

“First, it is depressing what is happening to the English language, especially with younger posters.” - R. Grant 03/23/18

...quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

It’s too early here in the Midwest. I must wait until April-May...
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are always flower pots for the window sills.

The point I make, dear friend, is that your obsession with Trump has bled into another thread. Enough, already. We all know Trump has limited communication skills, and that Obama is rhetorically gifted. One marks the beginning of the new age, while the other is mired in the past.

Mae West famously said, "I like to push the language around to get my meaning across." In his own way, Trump does the same. Far from eloquent, but he's headed in the right direction, like it or not. As I have quoted before, Ibsen's character in "An Enemy of the People" said "The majority are not always right; they are always wrong. That man is correct who most closely allies himself with the future."

I may be wrong, but that's I's opinion.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I hate to revive a less-than-friendly thread, where else am I going to post about our evolving language ?

(A new "language" thread, maybe ?)

Watching High-Imperialist Judge Judy Sheindlin on the electric television set gives one an opportunity to see English as it is presently spoken, by some.
Today I witnessed yet another citizen telling the judge that she "seen" something, intending the past tense. Why not the correct (and simple) choice, "saw" ?

One possibility, it occurs to me, could be that such a locution might have been corrected by a well-meaning listener, who might have suggested that if
one wanted to use "seen," a correct usage might be "had seen." The problem with that is that "had seen" is not equivalent to "saw."

The possibility is that, in trying to be correct, the hapless mis-speaker would now use "had seen" whenever speaking in the simple past tense, thus
unwittingly committing a new and different error. What's a (poor) English speaker to do . . . ?

SDR
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DRN



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What's a (poor) English speaker to do . . . ?


Hope Esperanto catches on?
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KayFrancis



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t mean to be a stickler, but isn’t this thread supposed to be about the Banff Pavilion rebuild? Could you confine your comments to that subject?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Ma'am. What's new on that front ? What would you like by way of questions or contributions, here ?

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe what we have here is a form of "stream of consciousness." Sticking religiously to the point, we might not have made it from perfs to Bach.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KayFrancis wrote:
Could you confine your comments to that subject?


Based on our history, probably not ... Laughing Twisted Evil Laughing
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KayFrancis



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-quest-to-recover-a-lost-frank-lloyd-wright-building-1527686685
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would love to read that article - alas.
What the scale of this building is intrigues me.
Would love to see it built.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I 'm noticing a remarkable silence on this thread since I've posted the last few articles. What happened to all the mutually congratulatory criticisms of the project now that they have all been proven wrong? Or are all you "Dear friends"
too busy trying to impress each other with your pretentious command of the English language?
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