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SDR



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the one who is proposing some form of revival of the Legacy Program. I would suggest that another name be found for the new effort.

The way to prevent unqualified recreations of Wright designs -- either digital or real -- is for the owners of the drawings, and respected interpreters of those drawings, to retain exclusive control over production. Once that has been established (and I believe the controls are already in place, and have been for some time), proper reproductions of Wright designs can proceed, with benefits for those who have the means and the taste.

Skyline Inc may have made good digital models of Bruce Goff designs; I wouldn't know. But they have not responded to my criticisms of their work on Taliesin I, which I made after only the most brief inspection. See this page:

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=7702

The problems are the same for either medium: inadequate dedication to a faithful rendition on the part of the maker, followed by inadequate -- perhaps uninformed -- review of the results. This is not how proper curation and preservation are conducted; proclaiming the goods "fabulous" isn't enough. With this level of professionalism, no wonder Wright owners and others are leery of new work reaching public eyes.

Wright's work deserves museum-level professionalism, not a well-meaning cheering section. Conserving shouldn't be surrounded in quotes; it should be the real thing -- the best that can be achieved. Anything less disrespects all, most of all Mr Wright himself.

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Museum-level professionalism" gives us a Guggenheim interior that has never been properly deferential to FLW's intention, and MoMA's current plan to destroy Williams & Tsien's beautiful building.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's exempt major New York modern-art museums, then, as examples. (The decision to abandon Wright's exterior Guggenheim color was enough for me.)

Speaking of the Guggenheim, The Foundation isn't looking too good either, by way of respect for the artist . . .

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=7499

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jfkaestnerjr



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:
"Shouldn't be completely abandoned . . ."

Well, that's a start, I guess. Very Happy

SDR


Sorry if I misinterpreted comments regarding renaming FLW homes for sponsors. Tone isn't immediately obvious in text only format, but I see now sarcasm was involved. Nevertheless if is a company offered a significant donation to restore or endow a FLW (or other architect's) endangered work with no conditions beyond their name being appended, I don't really see the downside. Is it a bit tacky? Maybe, but if the alternative is demolition or slow deterioration I'll make that trade. As I've said before...preservation by any means necessary.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I would buy that: if the sale couldn't be made any other way, so be it. But the client's name (and, rarely, the famous and long-accepted appellation, like Fallingwater or Auldbrass) must not be abandoned. After all, there'd be nothing to protect if the client hadn't approached Mr Wright . . . !

One approach to furthering correct information about Wright and his projects might be a program to inform local news organizations about Wright works which they have covered in the past or which might be on their horizon as restoration commences, say. Misinformation, gossip, unfounded legend should be supplanted wherever possible by truth -- which, as they say, is more interesting than fiction in any event.

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jfkaestnerjr



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Zillow, the bedroom wing residence will be auctioned on October 15.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/300-Scottswood-Rd-Riverside-IL-60546/3884090_zpid/
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Woodsmoor



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Bedroom Wing Sale at Coonley Reply with quote

Is there an update on the sale of the bedroom wing of the Coonley house? Will it be united with the rest of the house?
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bryannc



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From realtor.com, price has gone up from 356K to 400K.
I have never seen price increment on the listing before.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:12 pm    Post subject: The latest news... Reply with quote

300 Scottswood Rd
Riverside, IL 60546 Cook County
Foreclosure/Trustee, SFR
Original Principal Balance: -
Case/File No #: 14 CH 007190
Live Auction: Dec 10, 2014 2:00pm, Cancelled
CASH ONLY

http://www.auction.com
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Oak Park Jogger



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just drove by again, and the For Sale sign is still hanging in front of the bedroom wing. Listing is now $390,000, cash only, and hints at a needed restoration. What is the condition of the property? Does it have working utilities? Need a roof, wiring, furnace, etc? Has anyone arranged to see it?
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peterm



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this is the most appropriate thread:

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/8/7/16108188/frank-lloyd-wright-coonley-house-for-sale
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DRN



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see a site plan of the Coonley estate illustrating how it was subdivided and/or condo'ed into multiple parcels....what does this listing include or not include?
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Forest



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRN wrote
"I'd love to see a site plan of the Coonley estate illustrating how it was subdivided"

http://s42.photobucket.com/user/jeffrichardson/media/IMG_0184_zpsiqv8ezj7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The house on the market consists of the main living room/playroom block, the dining room and the service wing. A garage was built into what was originally a pass under the service pantry.

Unit #2 starts at the south end of the living room, includes the family bedroom wing, terminated by the large addition onto the original master bedroom (shown on the dust jacket of Mono #3), plus the guest wing over the approach drive. Another garage was insinuated under the guest wing.

The entire Coach House was converted into a separate house in the 1950s, and the roof that connected it to the Gardener's Cottage, also a separate residence, was removed.

Just west of Unit #2 is the first of 5 large houses that were built on original Coonley property extending along Scottswood Road, around the corner onto Bloomingbank Road to the north entrance of Coonley.

A sixth house was tucked into the NE corner of the lot along Coonley Road between Bloomingbank and Scottswood.

The Playhouse at 350 Fairbanks, just south of the estate, has been a private house for decades, lovingly restored as much as possible by the Shipper-Smiths, long-time members of the Conservancy. Susan Shipper-Smith bought the Gardener's Cottage in tough condition, restored it, and resold it.
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DRN



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Forest.
It looks to be quite diced...possibly giving a sense of how spread the whole was over a large site as the individual lots appear to have considerable size to them.
Have any Chatters been in any of the out buildings or far flung wings following their conversion to individual dwellings? Do they make good logically planned houses or are they functionally shoehorned?
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