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For sale: Robie-esque in Palos Park, IL
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:47 pm    Post subject: For sale: Robie-esque in Palos Park, IL Reply with quote

Homes for Sale - 11001 MC CARTHY RD, PALOS PARK, IL - [1:13]


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wes Barwick



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Link Reply with quote

Here is the link for this property.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/11001-W-Mccarthy-Rd_Palos-Park_IL_60464_M72360-29768?source=web
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With 2 1/2 acres you'd think they could find a better place for their parking lot than in front of the house. Even the Robie house looks better, though it fronts a public street.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would put that in the same category as Massaro.
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outside in



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am baffled by projects like this - the effort that architect, builder and owner have exhibited to create a bad copy of a truly great building. Copy is a form of flattery, I know, but why would you want to live in a "fake"? There continues to be a strange undercurrent in many posts here, wherein individuals who love Wright want to build a copy for themselves, yet original Wright properties that are worth far more in terms of both economic and cultural value sit on the real estate market for months. Currently they are selling for a fraction of their REAL value. One can only hope that the true value of these homes will be realized over time. Strange.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's strange at all. Someone likes the Robie House and wanted their own version. I'm sure they wrote a lot of checks to ensure they have exactly what they wanted. It seems an aberration to us when compared to the original, but it's perfect to the owner. Part of that perfection is that it's not on the tough south side of Chicago, but in the neighborhood of their choosing. It's not surprising that an architect...in this tough economy...was more than willing to indulge them, and builders more than willing to take on the job. The tough part for them will be to find another buyer who also wants that particular variation of Robie in that particular location.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Deke, "writing a lot of checks" doesn't justify anything, really.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only positive thing I can say about that house is that it is better than the usual McMansion with its "cathedral ceilings, Tara staircase, spa bathroom with a mountain view and bonus room." As an expression of FLW's architecture, it is less than the calendar image of Rembrant's "The Night Watchman." (But I have a calendar Klimt in the Kitchen, "The Embrace," because I couldn't settle on a price for the original, so perhaps I'm not one to criticize.)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

outside in wrote:
Sorry Deke, "writing a lot of checks" doesn't justify anything, really.


Sadly, in our world, writing checks justifies everything.
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pharding



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Outside In's comments. In my opinion fake Frank Lloyd Wright is just like a fake Picasso. Inevitably the original is much better than the knockoff. The other issue that I have with fake Frank Lloyd Wright is that we live in a different time and technology. There are very cool strategies that an architect can use now to do something really special and appropriate that is tailored to the lives of the client.

Real Frank Lloyd Wright houses are a bargain right now. They are selling for a fraction of the replication cost and one gets something that is wonderfully authentic and culturally rare and valuable. Inevitably the knock-offs screw up the design, details, and the finishes. The originals are far better.
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Palli



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writing checks rationalizes everything. Artists should make art. Occupy.
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dtc



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone build a Robie look alike but when it comes to the furnishings choose White upholstered inappropriate furnishings?
Go figure!
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replica of Frank Lloyd Wright’s Robie House Returns Asking $1.5M

Frank Lloyd Wright Robie House Replica For Sale In Palos Park - [2:34]


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SDR



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice brick. Where is Palos Park ?

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