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WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re going tomorrow, Saturday 5:15. Maybe IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll see some of you WCers there?
Not too be outdone by "Plagued by Fire" ? If it bleeds, it leads ? Anyway, there will no doubt be fresh images of the house, lure enough for me . . .!
These tales of snarky quips uttered by Wright, and clients not being listened to, have been portrayed as the norm when I believe they were less frequent, at least from what I have learned of actual client accounts. Roland Reisley's famous quote of Wright: "Tell me what you want, or you'll have to take what I give you.", was said partly in jest and as a means to tell Roland to communicate with him and tell him what was needed and wanted, so Wright could provide it. Otherwise, the architect is left to guessing.
Some might say Wright said this because Roland was only 26 at the time. However, from what I have been told by the Sweeton family, and from what I read and have seen in their correspondence and drawings, Wright was very open to revision to meet his clients' (then in their early 40's) wants and needs.
It is clear from the Dudley Spencer correspondence that Wright could become brusque if one questioned him on his design strategy or dictated to him aesthetics. Revisions requested to address practical needs and living or experiential preferences, by contrast, seemed to be honored and meticulously followed as much as budget would allow.
But the masses don't want to hear this, or some journalists, and some docents, donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think they do. Instead, tall tales of a promiscuous, arrogant bastard are peppered in. I'm certain Wright had an ego the size of a city, and he could be fluid on facts, but I believe his snarkyness was reserved for those who provoked it.
After the house was completed, and Mr. Wright came to visit, the Richardsons were terrified what he would say because, due to a change in site, they screened in the carport as a porch. Mr. Wright walked thru the screened porch and into the house, saying about this change from his plans.
Where some see arrogance, perhaps it was a little saving of egos on all sides. Not a bad thing, all in all.
The story of the family is remarkable, and reminds us that even the best architecture canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t solve every personal problem.
I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s available yet on dvd, but surely will be soon.
The announcement you posted contained the phrase, "Documenting the home over a period of years, beginning at a time when it was still occupied
by the criticÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s mother . . ." Is that a fair description of the film as you saw it---one aspect of it, anyway---"documenting the home" ?
I suppose I hadn't been aware of Jonathan Rosenbaum's career and work. I do vaguely recall reading that the Rosenbaums owned movie theaters.
Here is one of Mr Rosenbaum's published works:
https://www.amazon.com/Placing-Movies-J ... 0520086333
One son said that because the house was so unusual, it made them constantly aware of their difference, made them feel special and superior to their neighbors. He realized later in his life that this was not particularly healthy. He pointed out that the experience of living in the house was enjoyable, and yet that difference was problematic. The house was so important to his mother that they always felt as though they lived in a museum, and had to frantically tidy up to show it off for guests who came through.
Family tragedy was the main theme. The oldest brother committed suicide as an adult, Mildred Rosenbaum suffered from mental illness, was sent to England and had repeated treatments of electroshock therapy. She rarely left the bedroom, Stanley stayed in the study with his books and the children were taken care of by a series of African American servants.
Not the idyllic story one would hope for.
But is this exaggerated narrative now becoming part of the Wright branding? Trouble in paradise?
to be inconsiderate of its owners and occupants, or that his life was fraught with endless tragedy; now we see his clients getting the same treatment ?
We'll just have to double our efforts to present the positive values we associate with this "brand" !
Mildred R. was hospitalized in N.Y., not England, as I wrote earlier.
I suppose joy doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t sell tickets to documentary films these days. But as film critic and son Jonathan, who grew up in the house said during the q and a, Ã¢â‚¬Å“This film should not really be called a documentary. It should be called fiction.Ã¢â‚¬Â� The filmmaker, Iranian born, Chicago based Mehrnaz Saeed-Vafa, struggled to respond to that. Really the film was her story told through her subjective impressions of the Rosenbaum experience. It had precious little to do with WrightÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s architecure, even though the reputation (yes, mostly clicheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s) of Wright was used as a secondary vehicle to tell her story. His name is even included in the title, but not RosenbaumÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s or her own.
https://www.academia.edu/people/search? ... oyd+Wright
(Don't bite off more than you can chew ! There may be friendlier sites offering similar materials; caveat emptor.)
I also met one of the sons, but cannot recall his name, probably David. Which one killed himself, and when?
David shot himself in the early 80s. The surviving sons from oldest to youngest are Alvin, Jonathon and Michael.
https://books.google.com/books/about/Pl ... 2_SL-5EpcC