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For sale: Possible apprentice house - Montville, NJ

 
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:53 pm    Post subject: For sale: Possible apprentice house - Montville, NJ Reply with quote

Rich Heim, Heim Realty, Presents 14 Foremost Mtn Rd , Montville NJ - [2:08]

Zillow listing


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KevinW



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks similar to some of Ling Po's designs. Simple, almost austere, but elegant.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David C, why do you think this may be an apprentice-designed house?
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DRN



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

House was built in 1968. I'm led to think of Eleanore Pettersen only because of her presence in North Jersey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanore_Pettersen

Great house. The portion of the video at 1:06 in which the camera rounds the corner and starts down the bedroom hallway (gallery) is very reminiscent of the similar condition found in a house by FLW in South NJ....right down to the painted CMU and redwood battens on veneer plywood.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roderick Grant wrote:
David C, why do you think this may be an apprentice-designed house?


The quality and beauty of the design. Also, given that it was built in 1968 the timeframe would be right for an apprentice house. As DRN has pointed out, Eleanore Pettersen was working in Northern New Jersey at that time.


btw - Geiger's list has her arriving at Taliesin on January 1st, 1941.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be fun to investigate the two Petterson properties associated with Richard Nixon, for their presumed size and luxury . . .?

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DRN



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is this....
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/06colnj.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bwaf.org/05ia200501311430/

https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/bitstream/handle/10919/7494/05IA200501311424.jpg?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/bitstream/handle/10919/7495/05IA200501311426.jpg?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

https://people.com/archive/the-nixons-find-a-new-home-and-a-new-contentment-vol-17-no-3/

"At his semimonthly stag dinners for businessmen, diplomats, editors and the like, Nixon always greets his guests at
the door. The evening begins with drinks, mixed by the host himself, and a tour of the house. Dinner is usually Chinese,
and the conversation often tends toward the bawdy."

I recently read---or heard ?---an extended account of such a party, written when the journalist was quite green I believe.
Can't find it now . . .

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at it again, I don't see Eleanor Pettersen's hand at all. There is a shot on Zillow that reminds me of FLW's Carr House in Rochester, with the bedroom wing buried almost to the sill of the clerestory windows in the bedroom wing, a massive roof hovering, and CMU structure. This may very well be an apprentice job.

Whoever designed it, the house is really handsome.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to the Heim Realty website and they did not even have a CONTACT THE REALTOR button (just a phone number) to ask a question to see if they knew the architect.

Horrible website: https://heimsells.com
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DRN



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would seem that an addition was made to the house seen in the video from :34 to :46. Windows, even a mitred corner in the dining area looking out to another enclosed room with similar windows and a builderly door are at odds with the balance of the composition. The probable addition backs up to the garage, which itself might be an enclosed carport.
I’d love to see a floor plan, particularly one drawn for the original build.
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