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Paul Ringstrom
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Buffalo Grand Hotel has plans...

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Owner of the G. Curtis Yelland House (1910), by Wm. Drummond

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Post by Roderick Grant »

If the wedding chapel is built, it will be like Lloyd's Wayfarer's Chapel, booked 2 years in advance.

"We were actually offered the complete interior of a Frank Lloyd Wright house that is being demolished, I think it was in Minnesota," Stinson said. Is this a continuation of the Olfelt Tragedy? There is no paneling in the house, and I don't know offhand if there is any FLW house in MN with paneling. Anyone else hear anything about this?

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The whole paragraph:

" 'We were actually offered the complete interior of a Frank Lloyd Wright house which is being demolished, I think it was in Minnesota,' Stinton said. 'The demolition contractor called us and said '" just had to tear all this stuff out, but it's all the orignial paneling and everything." So we bought the interior of a Frank Lloyd Wright house to have literal, authentic interior.' "

So, whatever it is, they acquired it. Now I am curious !

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First design. Mr Wright wrote "Rococco Wedding Chapel" on the sketch elevation which preceded this sheet:

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Monograph 8 (left); Taschen III (right):

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Post by SDR »

One wonders how the traditional procession down (or up) the aisle would have worked in either of the floor plans shown above.

Amputating some of the legs while leaving others seems at odds with Wright's usual respect for formal consistency. The wheels -- or some of the spokes, anyway -- are coming off of this otherwise delightful wagon ?

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Post by Roderick Grant »

The second version is superior. The first one looks a little like a Hollywood version of a spacecraft.

The "amputation" is consistent with FLW's work. The cantilever of the west end is natural, and frees the pool on the ground from feeling too enclosed.

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Post by Tom »

Transplanting a design for Berkeley to Buffalo.

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Post by SDR »

I guess we don't know -- do we -- whether the realized chapel will be raised to a second-floor level . . . ?

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If the chapel is to be constructed over the main entrance of the hotel and connected to the second floor, there will have to be a major renovation. There is currently a huge circular pool, enclosed by a broad drive, with a substantial entrance structure at the front door of a one-story lobby. The entire entry court would have to be reimagined. Around the structure, there is seemingly no other point where the chapel, as designed, would fit, hemmed in by neighboring buildings and sited close to a freeway. The hotel has a bridal venue already, so that too would have to be dealt with.

I see this, if it comes off at all, as a seriously compromised building.

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Post by SDR »

Not that I'm recommending any of them, but there appear to be four potential sites for the addition of Wright's wedding cake:

1. standing in the forecourt pool, with bridge connection to the nearest building element

2. standing in the small landlocked court in front of the "Harbor Bistro and Bar," with bridge connection ditto

3. on the large patch of lawn, opposite side of building, with bridge connection ditto

4. on the roof


Heck -- why not do two of them, one at least to be visible from any vantage point . . . ?


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Post by DRN »

Over the circular pool may be best in terms of visual drama at the hotel’s entrance...the other sites might lead to the chapel being nicknamed “Our Lady of the Highway�.

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Post by SDR »

Right. Who knows what occurs at the front of the second or third floor of the hotel there at the right, but presumably the necessary space could be reconfigured to suit . . .


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Post by Roderick Grant »

The original site at the Claremont Hotel is still largely intact. Only four tennis courts seem to have been added. It would have been an ideal location.

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Post by Tom »

Lozenge panels in some of the windows are called out as mirrors.

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Inspired project

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Keep in mind regardless of how this has been reported in the press, this construction is only inspired by Frank Lloyd Wright’s project for the Claremont Hotel. The differences are unavoidable and significant

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