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peterm



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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modernist architecture as the composition... with the architects being the performers of that "score"


I see no difference whatsoever between the oeuvre of Bach, Picasso, or Wright. There are individual compositions and “masterpieces” within the entire body of work. Guernica and Fallingwater, as examples. Critics choose the masterworks, and those change with the times. Picasso moved through several periods of work, as did Wright, though one can see the continuous thread or hand throughout the entire lifetime.

Modern architecture is the composition, and the architects, with visions as radically different as Le Corbusier and Wright, are like the performers of the score? Wouldn’t that be the equivalent of saying the genre “Baroque” is the composition, and Bach, Vivaldi and Handel are the musicians? That makes little sense to me.

A score is the musical equivalent of architectural drawings, a set of readable instructions for the performers, drawings being like the score for the craftsperson.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that had been the case, as SDR suggests, the break that Bach, Wright and Picasso made with the world they entered wouldn't have happened. They took their respective disciplines off the grid of the past, into new territory. That is what all transformative artists do to one degree or another.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said all; my vocabulary such as it is fails me again, along with coherent thought. Merry Christmas . . . !

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peterm



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If so, its a rare occurence!

Merry Christmas to you, Stephen!
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing can be said for this house by Edgar Tafel: with its drooping roofline it bears a certain comparison to the Olfelt residence. Perhaps this view could serve



as inspiration to the designers of Olfelt's second incarnation -- presumably a two-story volume added to the original single level ?

Picture living room and carport at left and far left, respectively . . .

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bryant Denniston House (1958-61) in Newton, IA by Jack Howe also has a "drooping roof," although it was not for the carport, but an extension of the living area. Geiger was certain Howe had a major role in the design of Olfelt.

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SDR



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denniston shows its down-sloping roof especially well in an interior photo in the Howe monograph; nearly a dozen other houses and small buildings in the book have similar features -- apparently a Howe signature.

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KayFrancis



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, “outside in”, what is your real name? Are you in the Wright Attitude Facebook group?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a good question. While we're at it -- some of us are wondering who Kay Francis is.

Happy holidays, Kay !

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KayFrancis



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Name is Elaine “Kay” Francis, and I do have a Facebook page and am on the Wright Attitude. The reason I asked about outside in is because Stan Ecklund made a comment earlier in this thread, to outside in “You’ve participated in enough work on Wright structures...”, and I wondered if outside in has done preservation work on Frank Lloyd Wright buildings, and I can learn more about it.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Elaine. The man in question, John Eifler, does indeed have ample experience with Wright structures . . .

https://www.eiflerassociates.com

https://www.facebook.com/eiflerassociates/

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DRN



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KayFrancis, did you lease this billboard or just photograph it?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.architecturaldigest.com/story/frank-lloyd-wright-building-demolition-billboard/amp
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KayFrancis



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just photographed. I was told about it, and went over to shoot it with my phone. It was on the road between Kalispell and Columbia Falls.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's look at some published material on the Olfelt house.


Taschen III (2009); Storrer's "Companion" (1993):

. . .




Three floor plans. The site plan indicates the location of possible future expansion.


5820.002


Taschen; Storrer:







Move this fireplace ? Interesting . . .

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Tom



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't realize Olfelt was on such a steep slope.
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