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Unbrook



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:45 am    Post subject: Darwin Martin House Reply with quote

Does anyone know of a study or report which has looked at the effect of the restoration of the Darwin Martin house on the local Buffalo economy?
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JimM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Martin House Restoration Corporation should have info on any specific studies:

http://www.martinhouse.org

Found following in an article from this link:

https://www.buffalorising.com/2017/06/big-reveal-martin-house-fireplace

"Funding for the Martin House restoration project has come from a unique partnership of public and private resources: federal, state and local governments, various foundations, corporations, and numerous private donors at all levels. With its national and international appeal, the Martin House is widely recognized as a pivotal component of the Western New York economic development initiative that is focused on tourism investments. The site already attracts in excess of 30,000 visitors annually, with 75 percent of guests coming from outside Western New York, including a significant international component. Economic analysts have projected that the restored site will generate nearly $20 million of annual economic impact for the region and the state."
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SpringGreen



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Martin House Reply with quote

A number of years ago I talked to several historic sites (Wright sites & others) while investigating the importance of doing an HSR. Here's part of my concluding e-mail about the Martin House (this was 2005 I think):
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their HSR was inexpensive ($25,000). However, this was completed c. 1995, only included the historical section, and did not anticipate some of the later issues that came up. For example, just the cost of the schematic drawings for the Martin House was over $250,000. This cost did not include the construction drawings.

The Martin house restoration has greatly expanded over the years, to include the reconstruction of more buildings, the restoration of another Wright house adjacent to it (the Barton house), and the building campaign for a brand-new visitor center. The original estimate, about 7 years ago, of $23 million, is now up to about $31.5 million, and will probably rise. This is an increase of $10.5 million, or about 45%.

However, this story continues to have a happy ending. The project has been able to expand because of a very active and enthusiastic board of directors. The board contains community and civic leaders from the city of Buffalo (a “Who’s who,” in the words of Executive Director Mary Roberts). I asked Mary if they’d ever had a problem when expanding the project, given that these are business people. She replied no. I think in this case, the board began with a few leaders, got others on “board” and restoring the Martin House complex has become a component in improving the civic life and nationwide standing of this city that still faces extensive problems.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I remember the amount spent is now in the neighborhood of $50 million.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Landscape restoration starts
https://www.wnypapers.com/news/article/current/2018/05/31/132808/esd-martin-house-announce-groundbreaking-for-historic-landscape-restoration-at-frank-lloyd-wright-designed-martin-estate-in-buffalo
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://fortune.com/2018/08/15/golden-gate-bridge-net-suicide-barrier-construction-cost/

An anti-suicide net for the Golden Gate Bridge, once to cost $76 million, is now slated to come in at $211 million. I'd say that Buffalo did very well for themselves, to restore so magnificently the Martin House complex for c. $50 million . . .

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Craig



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a former Buffalonian I can say it is worth every penny spent. Buffalo once viewed itself as a sad, tired city with a bunch of worthless old buildings, unlike such dazzling modern metropolises such as Dallas or Toronto. It's been slow, but Buffalo has awakened to find itself to be a completely livable city with some first rate architectural treasures. The metamorphosis of the Darwin house is the perfect embodiment of this new attitude. It is radiating outward throughout the entire city.
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Unbrook



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:37 pm    Post subject: Buffalo Reply with quote

That is what I want to hear!
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least two historic hotels in downtown Buffalo have been tastefully restored to their former glory (Hotel at the Lafayette & Curtiss Hotel), and one of the H H Richardson buildings has been converted to a boutique hotel (Hotel Henry). One of the Larkin Soap (https://larkindg.com) buildings has been converted into offices. The Pierce Arrow Museum (www.pierce-arrow.com) has been expanded with the addition of the gas station designed for Buffalo. I even heard talk that someone was even considering rebuilding the Larkin Administrative Building (now that would be a great idea!).
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Unbrook



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Darwin Martin House Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone had heard a dollar amount I could use. I know when I went to tour the Darwin Martin House, I stayed at a BnB just down the street.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

article:
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/frank-lloyd-wright-barton-house
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Darwin Martin House Reply with quote

Unbrook wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had heard a dollar amount I could use.


A dollar amount for what exactly?
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Unbrook



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Darwin Martin House Reply with quote

I am looking for a dollar figure for the effect the Darwin Martin house restoration has had on the local economy.
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buffalo Chamber of Commerce would be the obvious source.
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HenryWhiting



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be great if the Conservancy celebrated the completion of the landscape project, and the house restoration, by hosting the Annual Conference in Buffalo?
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