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Tom



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are a couple of other Usonians with those ocular squares; none that I know of have the peculiar C-shaped ones.

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"ocular squares" .... perfect
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quite so -- reminiscent of a miniature T West structure, in part ?

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Totally TWest.
Directly and consciously derived.
No two ways about it.
I think it's a good interior - ...obviously
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those houses are Fredrick and Boulter (1954), Hoffman and Lovness (1955).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you
I’m making a note of it
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A separate garage/office building was designed for the Lovness property by Kelly Davis and Tim Old.

From the caption:

"Architecturally, the design takes cues from the unbuilt Cottages A and B, which Wright originally designed for the property."

https://salaarc.com/project-architects/tim_old/lovness-estate-garage-office-building/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, AKB. An exposed-aggregate floor is a rarity these days; for me it harks back to the '60s of the last century, perhaps. A nice alternative to the red concrete slab of the main house ?

The narrowest wood moldings are reserved for the junction of glass and ceiling plane, effectively echoing the frameless detail found there in many a late Wright residence. Svelte and sweet . . .

Bruce Brooks Pfeiffer mentions and briefly describes Cottages A and B, in both the Monographs and Taschen -- but illustrates only Cottage C, which is based on the 30-60 grid Maginel Barney project.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful tribute to Wright.

Two techinical questions.
1) How are exposed aggregate floors accomplished?
2) How would one name the grade of the interior wood?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/exposedaggregate/how_to_expose.html

I wonder if the method for terrazzo could be followed, sans the surfacing and polishing procedure.




https://www.todayshomeowner.com/understanding-lumberyard-lingo/

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Softwood lumber that is graded for appearance is used mainly for facing boards and other finish work. The highest quality appearance lumber is known as “finish” followed by “select.”

Each category is graded from best to worst as:

A: Clear with no knots.
B: Contains a few minor defects. Often combined with A and sold as B & Better.
C: Some small tight knots.
D: A few knots and defects.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So would you say the interior wood in this bundalow outbuilding
is Grade A?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least. Do you see any defects at all ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NONE.
What's your estimate of cost per board foot for material like this?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have none; for one thing, I can't be sure of the specie. Prices vary with location, and the milling of special shapes is another unknown cost factor.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom wrote:
What does surprise me about these clerestories are the "punched" square openings. Not a series of svelt, sleek perforations, emphasizing the horizontal ... but just a square imposition ... so to speak
the theme occurs elsewhere of course

What was that Emerson quote?something like:
"... do I contradict myself? So be it. I am vast and contain multitudes "


Not quite Emerson, and not quite Whitman, either, but the quote you intended is from the original 1855 First Edition, on the last two pages of the first (untitled) poem of his Leaves of Grass, pp. 55-56.

The past and present wilt -- I have fill'd them, emptied them,
And proceed to fill my next fold of the future.

Listener up there! what have you to confide to me?
Look in my face while I snuff the sidle of evening,
Talk honestly, no one else hears you, and I stay only a minute longer.

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes.

I concentrate toward them that are nigh, I wait on the door-slab.

Who has done his day's work? who will soonest be through with his supper?
Who wishes to walk with me?

Will you speak before I am gone? will you prove already too late?

The spotted hawk swoops by and accuses me, he complains of my gab and my loitering.

I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable,
I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you
It's even better in context.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you read that poem ? Is Whitman speaking directly to his reader, from the page to his or her mind and eyes, in "real time," moment by moment ?

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