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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Obituary: Architect John Portman Reply with quote

Pioneer American architect John Portman, who helped build Asia’s skylines, dead at 93


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/obituaries/john-portman-dead.html?_r=0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embarcadero_Center

The Embarcadero Center towers here have been outlined in light for the winter holiday season, for a number of years now.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hyatt Regency in Frisco was my introduction to Portman. It was featured in an issue of Architectural Record, so I went to the city to see it. I wasn't disappointed. The rest of the Embarcadero development did not impress me, nor the Bonaventure Hotel in DTLA. His own house has to be seen to be believed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's odd that the hotel interior is not a part of this photo gallery:

https://www.portmanusa.com/en/projects/mixed-use/embarcadero-center/?lite_escape=1

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The date for Embarcadero of 1989 on the Portman website is misleading.
It's a project concieved in the very late 60's, with the first building completed in very early 70's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the workweek, I can imagine there are people all over the place. Where else would they go for lunch? But when I saw the Embarcadero on a weekend, it was totally deserted, a dreary place with a sort of "1984" quality about it. The hotel had plenty of activity inside, but was similarly bleak outside. Frisco comes alive in the evening, but for the Embarcadero.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portman built two private houses for his family. The first one in the 60's in Atlanta. I've always really liked that house.
The second one, sometime in the 80's, and on a beach somewhere I think is, in my personal judgement, awful.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No less an expert than Irving Gill pointed out that the original atrium lobby was in Wright's Rogers Lacy design in the 40s.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No less an expert than Irving Gill pointed out that the original atrium lobby was in Wright's Rogers Lacy design in the 40s


Actually, the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver featured an eight story atrium lobby. It was built in 1892.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Metropolitan Building in Minneapolis, with its 12-story atrium, was built in 1890.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though it wasn't a hotel, the Metropolitan Building in Minneapolis featured a 12 story atrium, and it was built in 1890. Each floor of the interior court featured glass floored balconies looking across and down into the atrium.

Torn down in 1961, largely because the exterior looked "old", the building that replaced it was itself demolished a quarter century later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Building_(Minneapolis)

I had the good fortune of touring the Metropolitan Building two years before its destruction, and though I, too, found the exterior to be depressingly heavy, the light-filled interior courtyard was a revelation.

There are several rather poorly filmed videos of the building. Here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSyvz3E84TA
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't limit the search to hotels, the Peabody Library at Johns Hopkins, 1878, may be the oldest. Jack Quinan pointed out that, before air conditioning, such spaces were pretty much uninhabitable in the summer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reidy, I wonder about that. With vents between skylights and lay-lights at any of these courtyard buildings, the court would act like a chimney, sucking up hot air and venting it. If the solar heat gain created a problem, it would seem that they would have done something to mitigate it at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making Sense of John Portman


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scroll down on the Portman story and you find this:

https://www.citylab.com/design/2017/12/when-frank-lloyd-wright-comes-to-harlem/548378/
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