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Working at Taliesin, we have lots of electronic copies (& photocopies & photographs) of drawings of the building (and the school, Hillside, and Midway Barn, etc.), & all of them have archival numbers given to them by The Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation Archives. But I have not found a number for the Architectural Forum drawing. Even the drawing done for In the Nature of Materials has an archival number from The Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation Archives: 2501.065.
So, yesterday I wrote to the folks at the Avery looking for the drawing number. So far they've not been able to help. After Christmas I think I'll just send an e-mail to the folks at Taliesin West to get the answer. But if any of the folks here now, I'd appreciate it.
I assume that, as time went on in Pfeiffer's cataloging, it was decided to add a digit to the numbering system, explaining the two-digit image number in the earlier (Monograph) entry . . .
I'm not sure what to make of the diagonal hatching seen in the modified areas as well as (more strongly) in the untouched spaces on the right.
Any other candidate drawings out there for Spring Green's perusal ?
It would be interesting to know when the numbering of drawings began -- surely late in Wright's life, if not after ? Didn't we read recently that Jack Howe found the files to be scattered and scrambled, when he came to Taliesin, and that he had flat files built to accommodate them ?
Comparing the two drawings here, it can be seen that every line, every title is identical. This suggests to me that they are both prints from a single original, the second made from the modified original sheet or on a selectively erased print of it. Surely the drafter of a tracing would not think it necessary to duplicate the lettering -- even the foliage -- on the original, so precisely ?
I think the Forum drawing was done for the magazine, the "black" drawing is a tracing over Forum, alterations to T-III were sketched on the black drawing and drawn over Forum, so, in effect, Forum no longer exists.
"Are the such & such drawings here?"
"No, they're back in Wisconsin."
It's curious to hear that part of the archive was kept in an attic space above the loggia. When I was in that loggia a docent directed our attention up into a louver in the ceiling which contained a light bulb illuminating the attic space so that we could see the portion of the framing that was charred from one of the fires -- here's my snapshot looking up thru the louver into the attic:
I would've thought that, starting in 1932, the bulk of the drawings in Wisconsin would've been kept at Hillside near or in the Drafting Room where they were produced or used. The only floor plan of the Hillside drafting room that I can find is the one from the master plan which envisioned many additional buildings (not realized). In the vicinity of the drafting room that was built I don't really see a room that appears ample enough for much storage.
Similarly, when I look at a floor plan of TWest, I only see a small storage closet adjacent to the drafting room. I wouldn't think it was big enough to contain the 70 years worth of documents and other ephemera. I've not yet been there so I am writing in ignorance here, but it looks like there is much more storage space in the vicinity of the Library. What goes on there?
Yes, I was thinking the same thing: what to do when the desired files are five states away ? Would they have kept the diazo machine busy making copies of everything ? I somehow doubt it.
In the snapshot there is a funky piece of wood to the right of the ridge piece. It looks like it has some decorative notches cut out of it - a scrap of wood from some other place?