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Article: Rebhuhn House - Great Neck Estates, NY

 
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Article: Rebhuhn House - Great Neck Estates, NY Reply with quote

Frank’s Place: Lloyd Wright’s Solo Long Island Project Remains at Ease With Itself


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That second photo shows bolsters in wood that remind me of the concrete ones at Fallingwater.

They can be seen at far right in this section sheet. I had not noticed them before.








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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intriguing plan, this Rebhuhn house.
The "balcony" over "bolsters" arrangement can be traced back at least as far as Robie.
Anybody know if it appears in some form before Robie?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This house has always been an anomaly for me....Usonian in its techtonics, but with that hip roof and the localized symmetry of the piers and fenestration of the living room bay, it, as Tom notes, recalls some Prairie "moves".
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robie and other Wright buildings have a row of piers supporting what is above. As I see it, there is a difference between piers and canted bracket supports. What is above may or may not be cantilevered; the bolster is itself a proto-cantilever ?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's this little instance at Taliesin:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, yeah I was thinking today if there is an earlier example it would probably have been at Taliesin.
Don't know if this would be it.
Depends on the date I guess, but it sure falls into the general category.

...the two tone triangular stiffeners (if in fact they are structural) ...that kind of thing comes later in Wright's career, no?
I think of that as post Taliesin West.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and also these:

http://thevagabondphotographer.com/img/s/v-3/p1521687590-3.jpg

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Columns under balcony
- there you go !
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with DRN, Rebhuhn seems like a cross between two eras. A mutt, if you will. But it is a splendid house, nevertheless. I had a mutt once, Tippy. Great dog.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The triangular gussets at two locations at Taliesin are presumably much newer than the original construction ?

I'm particularly smitten with that two-story interior elevation at Rebhuhn, which is why I included it above -- one of Wright's somehow-ancient compositions, at least in photographs. Interiors at Baird are another example. Bricks, boards, romantic sense of enclosure, elemental geometries unspoilt by decoration.

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