Oh, the horror . . .

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:20 pm

For those Gehry-phobes among us (I'm on the fence, at best), here's evidence of what goes on under those extravagant skins:

https://www.designboom.com/architecture ... 8-09-2017/

Is this any way to build ? Suppressing evidence of structure is one thing; this is more like sweeping the mess under the rug and pretending nothing happened . . .

SDR

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:58 am

Gehry jettisoned the principles of modernism long ago.
I can appreciate his work but the experience I've had of being around and in his buildings wears thin.
How many times during the day can you listen to "Twist and Shout"?
(I've never been to the Disney Hall, but what I've seen strikes me as really good)

Yet these present shots that SDR posts
All that jumble of solid steel
I don't agree with it.

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:59 am

Solid steel, and what else ? What are those little doo-dads ? Magnets ?

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Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:04 am

The doo-dads are clip mountings for the facade material.

I can only imagine the legal nightmares these projects must cause.
Hard to believe that any contractor could rationally manage it.
Just throw money...

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:56 am

While he's at it in France, perhaps he could remodel that stuffy old church in Chartres.

DRN · Post by **DRN** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:13 pm

All those gymnastics for a skin...are artfully composed spaces created within the building because of this? Gehry's needlessly complex faÃ§ade structures are proof that just because one can do something doesn't mean he necessarily should.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:46 pm

Change Order add infinitum

Paul Ringstrom · Post by **Paul Ringstrom** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:01 pm

It is hard to imagine that this building would be able to be insulated properly to become energy efficient. An energy efficient structure should contain an uninterrupted/continuous insulated envelope/shell, the exception being the necessary addition of windows and doors.

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:38 pm

Good point. Although it apparently doesn't freeze in Arles

https://weather-and-climate.com/average ... les,France

it does get chilly in winter. Perhaps the owner(s) have l'argent to burn ?

SDR

Paul Ringstrom · Post by **Paul Ringstrom** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:22 am

SDR wrote:Although it apparently doesn't freeze in Arles -SDR

Does Gehry's "style" change depending on the climate of the site?

Is his Weisman Art Museum in Minneapolis a paragon of energy efficiency?

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:41 pm

The thing I like about Frank Gehry's work is, it makes the output of, say, Peter Eisenman or Robert A M Stern or even Philip Johnson seem like actual architecture !

Kinda brings the West Coast into disrepute, doesn't it. Thank heaven we have so many reputable progressive architects to our credit . . .

SDR