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E.A. Smith house recreation
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Tom



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah
Section shows "perfs" in the M Bedroom
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah. Nice one . . .

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, all this information is very valuable, this chat is like the the genius of the lamp
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgeous.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never really studied these houses before.
The sections posted here emphasize the importance
Wright gave to 'gesture' in architecture.
I mean all that uninhabited space in the roofs-
nevertheless it's beautiful.

(by the way SDR: strikes me how much this
forum is indebted to you for your postings.
If ever in the Bay area again, dinner on me
if you've got the time.)
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam Freeman called it "an extravagant waste of space."
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Tom, Thanks SDR, and I would love to be in that dinner!

About the "extravagant waste of space" springs to my mind the famous quote by Oscar Wilde "“We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely.
The art is quite useless"

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the plan provided by SDR, Do you think the garage is open?
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys -- just doin' the job. (All should contribute to the extent of their ability -- and take away what they can ? Hope that doesn't sound too "pink" . . . !)

Yes, I would say the "garage" is really a carport, placed under a wooden promontory like a cave in a cliff -- in section, at least ? One thinks of what R M Schindler took away from a trip to Yosemite -- an inland version of the stony cliffs and conifers at the subject site, at the Pacific edge of the North American Plate -- which was the feeling of prospect/refuge provided by a particular camp-site shelter . . .

Unlike a cave, the carport here is has a three-sided outlook, oriented uphill, in a teaser to the visual feast of vista available from the living-room balcony(s).

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David wrote:
Looking at the plan provided by SDR, Do you think the garage is open?


I'm not sure that Wright designed a garage for a residence after the Jacobs house. Anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David- I was just looking at this photo and thought about the contrast of wood and desert rubble in Wright's architecture. This photo of Elizabeth Gordon at Taliesin West in 1946 might be of help in determining more accurate colors for the Smith house:

https://www.curbed.com/2017/5/10/15592658/elizabeth-gordon-house-beautiful-frank-lloyd-wright

Excellent work, by the way!
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is Sam Freeman?
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://arch.usc.edu/freeman-house

Freeman was the original client/owner of one of the Los Angeles textile block houses.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of Wright's LA clients of the 'twenties . . .

It could be said that desert rubble-stone masonry might vary some in color depending on the local stone, and on whatever is the makeup of the concrete employed ?

Garages in the Usonian period are very few. We recently looked at the Erdman houses; four of the #1 plan had garages, while the #2 design featured a carport with closed sides. Wright appealing to a more conservative client ?

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh - THAT Sam Freeman.
Well what was the context of his
"extravagant waste of space" remark?
Was it typical for him to comment on Wright designs?
I know nothing about Freeman personally.
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