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JChoate



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm planning on using these bad boys on something. They have a color that is very dark gray almost like charcoal (not shone here). It's not as light & delicate as a Roman brick, but the sample I have is intriguing. Sort of like Frank Lloyd Wright meets Darth Vader.

https://www.interstatebrick.com/content/2-14-emperor
The photos aren't representative of the proportions. But the drawing is.
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JChoate



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These guys advertise a jillion sizes, but when I inquired about their Roman brick their sales rep shook his head and said, "Nah, they're not really available." I'm not sure why they're so hard to find. Perhaps too much breakage or too much mason labor? Or too out of style for the mainstream?

https://www.interstatebrick.com/content/2-14-emperor

To see something particularly wicked see the dimensions of the "Viking". Same height as a Roman brick at 1 5/8" but 4" longer.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the heck would you do with an 87-degree corner -- if I read that right ? (bottom of the page)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

87 degrees is oddly close to, but not quite, 90 degrees. I wonder if there is some practice of setting a corner with that slightly acute piece. If so, I've never heard of it.

Here's my Darth Vader brick. For scale, the light gray brick on the right is a standard size modular brick. It's big, but if you're far away perhaps its horizontality is a bit Roman-ish (I would've written "Romanesque" but that term is already taken).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that as an alternative to taller bricks, if the motive is to reduce the numbers of units and thus the time to assemble them . . . depending of course on other factors such as the visual scale of the work, etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would induce you to use this dry brick veneer system ? Lots of metal in it . . .

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/68732340130/?utm_campaign=category_pp&e_t=a38d01b6ee604401ba3dda8ed8f69125&utm_content=68732340130&utm_source=31&utm_term=7&utm_medium=2012

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That system with the metal ledges seems like an unduly complicated and probably expensive way to simulate a simple & conventional brick veneer installation. I don't get it. Slightly below it is a wafer-thin, glued-on faux brick veneer (I think the product is typically marketed these days as "thin brick"). It's all about as honest as a toupee'.
This morning at a fitness center I frequent I encountered some remodeling which included the latest trendy material -- 6" x 48" ceramic tile simulating planks of wood.
It's a fake, fake, fake, fake world out there.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. We're seeing a lot of that ceramic-plank "wood" out here, for floors, etc.

The brick-hanging system at least has the benefit of being dry. Wet building systems make me nervous -- stucco, for instance. But they have a very long history . . .

On the plus side, people are having fun with real brick:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/483222235001455299/

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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the fireplace tile is almost done. here is an article on the topic from 2015.

http://buffalonews.com/2015/07/26/on-a-mission-to-restore-glass-mosaic-fireplace-at-martin-house/
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. I'm seeing those fire-screen posts for the first time. Photos of the fireplace seem hard to find. There's this:

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewtopic.php?p=58191&sid=33dbd55367b2285478f89b3afeee6911

Anybody have better vintage photos ? JimM ?

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Reidy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another presumed Ostertag design is in the Women's City Club in Pasadena, formerly a house by G.W. Maher, his only west-coast building. Click on the 7th and 11th thumbnaisl to enlarge. Also check out the glass in #1, 5 and 8.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drawings from Monograph #2:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Is the first drawing also for Martin ? The overall form is odd, if the plan and structure of the house had been set by that time . . .

So, that pair of "fence posts" is simply there for its own sake ?

I note that the early photo -- that one elevational shot is the one we have ? -- shows the metal with a lighter finish than what's there now. The dark ones look new -- but weren't the originals still in place ? We need more pre-restoration photos. I see that the public in Buffalo have been invited to provide such images . . .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That brass urn pops up everywhere.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very helpful. Could they be candlesticks ?

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