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Sure, we can call anything "Frank Lloyd Wright"
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps "trained" is the wrong word. I should have written: "... you don't have to be college-educated to be an architect."

Perhaps "trained" isn't all that wrong. When I went to college, Mies ruled the roost, and anything students submitted that wasn't in the Miesian Mode did not fare well with the professors ... which included Ralph Rapson and Leonard Parker.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do current publications still have editors?

You would think that Architectural Digest, of all people, would know that Frank Lloyd Wright is not the same person as Lloyd Wright.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/frank-lloyd-wright-mansion-once-home-to-diane-keaton-for-sale
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol- don't forget you're referring to a magazine that recently featured two of the Kardasians! No, they probably don't know the difference. Its a magazine that exists primarily to promote consumerism rather than design.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr and Mrs Alfred Newman House, 14148 Sunset Blvd, Pacific Palisades; 1949, 1951-2

The exterior photo is grand. I don't know what to make of a brick truss (?) next to the fireplace . . .

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Reidy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the original client might have said, "What, me worry?"
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luxury Home Tour: Waterfront Edition | Frank Lloyd Wright Inspired Home in Merritt Island, Florida - [12:22]


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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Newman House is an excellent piece of architecture, and should be properly credited. At least they could have said "Frank Lloyd Wright, Jr."

I doubt AD has editors and am sure they don't have proofreaders.

That waterfront house in FL? Almost comical.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR- Did you notice that there is no brick on the exterior at that “truss” spot which you referred to?

Could the bricks on the interior be only decorative, added later? “Thin bricks”?
“la-di-da, la-di-da”

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Old-Mill-Thin-Brick-Systems-2-25-in-x-7-625-in-Colonial-Castle-Gate-Individual-Piece-Brick-Veneer/1000223607
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Maybe brick Contact Paper---if you remember that stuff . . . ?

The second-to-last entry in the chronological list of works in Alan Weintraub's monograph is another Newman residence, for a David Newman, in 1977:






And here are images of the Alfred Newman residence, from the same source:













all images © 1998 Alan Weintraub
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same family of composers, a Los Angeles dynasty. Alfred Newman won mulitiple Oscars from the 40s through the 60s. His son David Newman, who has written tons of scores, has the other Lloyd Wright house that you posted. David’s sister, Maria, is also a film composer, as is his brother, Thomas, who happens to be my favorite living film composer. I think Randy Newman (“Short People” and “I love LA”) is a cousin. Freaky talented family!

https://youtu.be/hoWifeC0UOU

Thomas Newman’s incredible, haunting end title theme to Revolutionary Road. It doesn’t get much finer.
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Tom



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoyed the link. It led into something of his from Meet Joe Black. There was some harp in it that reminded me of Robert Moran's Desert of Roses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVcm8_7nFo&list=OLAK5uy_lwjhp8QVvdAudfOuF8obqwQukVqYVnIlw

This is really cool too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLfXkzvv80c&list=OLAK5uy_lwjhp8QVvdAudfOuF8obqwQukVqYVnIlw&index=6&frags=pl%2Cwn

Jayne West has a great voice.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though Moran’s earlier works were steeped in the avant-garde and twelve tone tradition, his later stuff sounds more like pop minimalism (Philip Glass, etc.) by way of Copeland.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I've always liked Desert of Roses and it's light touch.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He’s definitely an accomplished composer.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted on this house previously. It looks like they got their price.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/residential-real-estate/home-sale-sets-record-long-shot-frankfort
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