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Meisolus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject: Harold McCormick House Reply with quote

In the entry for the McCormick House in the three volume Complete Works, Pfeiffer gives Wright's account of meeting with the McCormicks to show them the drawings. Though Mrs. McCormick rejected the design outright, apparently Wright let them keep the presentation drawings he created. Has anyone ever tried to track these down? I can't help but wonder if they're out there somewhere, in some grandchild's attic.

Does anyone know how many drawings are known? I've seen a few plans and perspectives, but not much else.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't much on record; I imagine you've found all of it. Here are the entries in Monograph 3 (1987) and in Taschen I (2009). There are a few more words about the nature of the project, in the Mono text.







The only illustration found in the Monograph. There's a smaller but more legible version of this sheet in "In the Nature of Materials."





Then the Taschen entry:






The remaining visuals, not here presented at their best -- though the color of the water-level perspective is interesting -- are seen below.











As indicated in the Taschen text, the Wasmuth Portfolio (and its many reprints) contain just three plates for the project: plan, aerial view and water-level view.

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Meisolus



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was afraid that was it. Maybe I should try and track down the McCormick descendants and see if they know anything? If only I had the time...
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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coonley on steroids. If this extravaganza had been built, it would likely have been demolished, left to molder or turned into a multi-family compound. Rich Americans who can afford such a place tend to think of themselves as akin to European aristocracy, and this house is not chateaux-esqe enough for them, as it wasn't right for Mrs. McCormick. (Wasn't she a Rockefeller?)
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DRN



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A website with a history of the house the Harold McCormick's actually built:
http://www.villaturicum.com/
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SREcklund



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Dan's Villa Turicum link above ...

Quote:
“Mrs. McC inclines to being partial to Italian style."


Pretty much says it all. Her final residential choice could be the prototype for today's McMansions ...
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Tom



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the rooms of those two large pavilions with fireplaces on the lake side would have been pretty cool.

If memory serves, Edith and Harold got involved with Carl Jung and his method of psychology and moved to Geneva.
I think Edith became a Jungian therapist after they divorced.
She may have given a large part of her fortune to Jung - not sure about these details.
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tulikajain



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice posting
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Matt



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did this ever go to working drawings? When I was studying Wright in depth, I was surprised at how many projects wen to full construction docs, but didn't ultimately get built. No doubt this was due to the surprise estimates from builders based on these drawings.

The mid-century architect I'm now studying never seemed to do final drawings unless the project was a go.
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brus1987



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey everyone,

First message here, but it's been years now, at least 10, that i've been wanting/trying to redraw the McCormick house but somehow always abandoned because at some point I'm not able to interpret the plan anymore.

If any of you have some more information on it, or ideas of how it was supposed to be (or could be seeing other projects of the same period) would be very appreciated!
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brus1987



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, this is what I've redrawn this time (although there's a possible mistakes in the dimensions as I'm drawing in meters, and in one of the front windows)

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Matt2



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an interesting and extended quote from Wright. I assume this might be from one of his chats with apprentices? Has anyone inventoried these chats and created an index of various project/subjects Wright talked about?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mean the quoted passage near the top of the thread, that's taken from the Wasmuth Portfolio ...

brus1987, you seem to have it mostly right. The doors to the terrace at left open outward, not in, on Wright's plan. And, in the large gallery at right, it
would be unlike Wright not to give visual access to, and daylight from, the passage opposite the french doors at bottom ... despite what appears on the
Wasmuth plan to be opaque wall.

Nice drawing ! Pencil on trace is getting to be a rarity, isn't it ...!

S


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Matt2



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was referring to the quote in the excerpt from Taschen.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah -- of course. We don't have too many of his impressions of clients, do we. I've never seen a copy of this:

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Chicago-Architects-Their-Clients/dp/0262050072

To anyone who has read the book, is a notable distinction drawn between the clients of the two architects ?

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