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For sale: E Fay Jones' Monaghan House in MI???
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject: For sale: E Fay Jones' Monaghan House in MI??? Reply with quote

0 North Dixboro Rd, Ann Arbor, MI 48105

According to Craig W. Stevens' "E. Fay Jones Guide Book", there was a home that was being built by Jones/Jennings (ca. 1985 -1991) for Tom Monaghan very close to the address listed above. Stevens (a/k/a "hypnoraygun" here at Wright Chat) wrote that the house was never finished - and he was unsure if it might even have been destroyed. The realtor lisitng shows a completion date of 1994. Makes me wonder if the home was actually further worked upon and completed in 1994? Stevens also mentions there being a locked gate. One of the photos on the realtor site shows a gate.

I hope Craig is looking in on the post - and can possibly help figure this one out.

If it isn't the Monaghan House, is it possible that Jones/Jennings had another commision nearby shortly thereafter? The house is beautiful - and has "E. Fay Jones" written all over it.


David


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SDR



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The photo of the exterior gallery corridor, with second-floor hallway balanced overhead on the first-floor window wall (if that's what I'm seeing), is a spacial and structural delight.

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DavidC



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:
The photo of the exterior gallery corridor, with second-floor hallway balanced overhead on the first-floor window wall (if that's what I'm seeing), is a spacial and structural delight.


Is this the one you are speaking of? It's a fantasic view.

I also like this picture, looking from inside in the opposite direction.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, David. This is the photo that I spoke of, and two others of the same piece of the structure. The romantic substance I imagined is only partly factual . . .












The master suite is another dramatic space . . .

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egads



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have had a long discussion of this house in a couple of old threads:

http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=7779&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ann+arbor

In that thread, sdr includes a link to another:


http://savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=7890&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

egads wrote:
We have had a long discussion of this house in a couple of old threads


Thanks for posting those. I even contributed to one of those threads ...... Shocked

This getting old thing isn't easy ............ Crying or Very sad



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell me about it . . . Rolling Eyes

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old? Who's old? I'll be 28 soon. I'm living all the years of my life, but not necessarily in order.

Has anyone posted the floor plan of the Monaghan House? It is the reduced version of the enormous house originally begun. Monaghan, as rich as he was, seemingly got in over his head, and scaled the thing back considerably. The original scheme is on page 195 and the reduced plan, about 40%, on page 197 of the Jones book. Neither, as plan, is enticing.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not the Monahan house. The Monahan house was never finished and the foundation footprint with some enclosure can be seen on Google earth not to far from Domino Farms. This house is the Carl Gilmore house and it is, or at least was, recently for sale. It is also in Michigan not far from Domino Farms and the Monahan site.
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plant1965



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction it is the Serras house designed by architect Carl Gilmore.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/18625613
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SDR



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nice to see the Serras opus again, perhaps with some photos we haven't seen before ? I don't recall the massive dining/side armchairs from our last
exposure. The "bridge" portion pleases me, the stone and the roof fascia look good, and the dining light fixture growing out of some overwrought overhead
woodwork still intrigues. Table lamps are rich. I'm glad there are people who require this level of accomplishment, from a few lucky architects, today . . .

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DRN



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who are curious, the unfinished Monaghan house by Jones+Jennings is visible via Google Earth (turn on map view to see street names):

-Starting at Dominos Farms Corporate office, follow Earhart Road north under Route 14 until the intersection of Earhart Road and Warren Roads.
-Turn east onto Warren Road and follow it until the first intersection with a cul-de-sac street heading north.
-Turn north onto the unnamed cul-de-sac street passing a complex labeled "DSMME Motherhouse" (a convent). Follow the street to its end where a cul-de-sac bulb is visible. The unfinished house is in the woods at a 2 o'clock orientation to the cul-de-sac.
-Geo point is 42 degrees 20 minutes 19.60 seconds North, 83 degrees 40 minutes 11.19 seconds West.
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DRN



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pre-outage thread exists relative to Carl Gilmore Architect:

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewtopic.php?p=65409


Chat's Paul Ringstrom reached out to Carl and received a very nice letter which is included.
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John



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject: Carl Gilmore house Reply with quote

This truly is a "Wright-like" design.
But who here thinks it is more Wright than Jones or more Jones than Wright?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Organic roads -- and eyes -- lead to Wright. But I'll take Jones as a welcome variation on Wright -- any day.

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