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FLW's Banff Pavilion to be rebuilt
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Duncan



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For another architect's opinion on what kinds of roof slopes are appropriate in Banff's climate, check out photos of the (Fairmont) Banff Springs hotel.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn. That rivals Wright's favored Potala Palace. If anything, the Banff Springs Fairmont is even more dramatically set ?

Any roof slope can be structured to withstand a given snow load. Not wanting to alter the appearance of Wright's design, those responsible for a recreation will see that appropriate trusses and sheathing are provided. As mentioned, steel trusses could be clad in wood of the original appearance; alternatively, steel flitches could be introduced into wood trusses made to match the originals.

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jmcnally



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see this as a business model that is failing financially - like a restaurant that asks patrons for donations to keep the lights on. Asking for a volunteer reveals an organization whose dreams exceed its budget.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess there's a difference between making an investment in an enterprise, and donating pro bono something for a cause. How about the fellow who wants to digitize his copy of the Wasmuth Portfolio, or the several film-makers who have solicited investors (subscribers ?) in advance of production, or post-production. Did the contributors to the model-making project, a year or two ago, feel they've received value for their money ?

I hope they do . . .

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Efforts like the one at hand are essential to accomplishing things that are not economically viable, but which enhance the culture. FLWBC is a major force for this sort of thing. But it is incumbent upon any group, formally organized or ad hoc, engaged in such an effort to put together a more complete program than seems to be the case here. All the complexities should be addressed before advertising for free labor. Government involves itself in everything we do, and to jump the gun without first establishing what meddling the bureaucrats will require is reckless and portends failure. This effort has been around long enough for much of the preliminary tasks to have been accomplished. They seem not to have tended to the unpleasant details yet.
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outside in



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid that the effort is being run by a group that doesn't understand "fund-raising 101".......they need to complete a little bit of work, i.e. drawings, renderings, etc. and then complete a construction budget, both of which need to be accomplished by professionals. Without a firm set of design drawings and construction budget they will be lost.........unfortunately, the entire enterprise comes off as being one of a passing fancy rather than a genuine effort.
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pharding



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The concept of an Architect working for free to recreate a FLW building is bizarre and a formula for disaster. By and large you what you pay for. This building will be a major investment outside of what an Architect is paid or not paid. No competent architect will agree to work for the two years that it will take to do the project for free. I doubt that an incompetent will agree to that, but they may have success in recruiting an incompetent architect doing a half vast job that will result in a half vast building built by a half vast contractor. for what purpose? If they found a free architect, fundraising would be next to impossible and the results would be grossly embarassing and mocked in the media. All of this to save maybe 8%. Think of all the time and money that will be wasted.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bravo.

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