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Sure, we can call anything "Frank Lloyd Wright"
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SDR



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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I sent the above document to no one; it appeared only here, as far as I know. I'd be pleased to find that it was forwarded by someone -- or, alternately, that the interested parties found it here.

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now, for "Sure, we don't have to call everything 'Frank Lloyd Wright' ": a Wright-inflected design which is presented with absolutely no reference to America's greatest architect:



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/peters/peters-wow-house-jaw-dropping-architectural-gem
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:
And now, for "Sure, we don't have to call everything 'Frank Lloyd Wright' ": a Wright-inflected design which is presented with absolutely no reference to America's greatest architect.


A larger overhang would have helped pull the eye away from the garage doors.

Interesting, no reference. Amazing.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. A more Wrightian alternative might be a more-or-less continuous pitched-roof "eyebrow" sheltering both entrances and garages. But this design reminds us that Wright isn't "all horizontals": rather, a pleasing contrast between horizontal and vertical is the next step -- fully in evidence, here, in compact-planning mode ?

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom heavy, with living area given over to the internal combustion engine and storage for "stuff".
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come, now -- don't cars belong on the first floor ? Are you suggesting that cars should be forbidden in this semi-urban environment ? Didn't Wright place the living area on the upper floor when possible, for views, privacy, and (where applicable) the underside of the roof ?

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, they belong on the ground floor, but does the architecture want to celebrate that fact, or engage in some sort of reflective critique of it? To use watered down Prairie forms for current conditions strikes me as somewhat dishonest, and at least in this case, I think, not very attractive.

One way would be to think of the garage spaces more as voids in the forms, instead of projections. I agree with Paul that larger overhangs would be one way to help balance the bottom heaviness that I see.

Not at all Prairie Style or even Wrightian, but I appreciate how this architect deals with the problem of the garage: https://lvbmag.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/4-the-chelsea-townhouses-by-morpheus-copyright-lvbmag-com1.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without changing the dimensions of either floor -- no doubt calculated to the square inch -- the proportions could be changed by lowering the belt-line from the second-floor sill (surely a Wright-inspired move) to above above the first-floor opening head line. I see the garage doors here as a brave attempt at something different, but not overtly modern. Stickley furnishings would be right at home here . . .

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't regard the garage design as a problem at all. It's obvious that squeezing so many units onto a limited lot would make the necessary garage a problem, and this solution is better than most. It's straightforward, fronting on the public street so as not to consume whatever area behind or within the structures that might be used for outdoor living, and they are private spaces as opposed to the popular basement garage with its gapping maw. The doors are handsome, as well.

What could have been a better move is to extend the roof overhangs further to give shade to the upper level windows. Dumping the conceit of fireplaces and the concomitant chimneys would have helped, too, considering it's probably unlawful to burn wood in that area.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winslow would be considered a bottom-heavy design if it were not for its massive roof. A bit more roof on this set of houses would help, as Roderick says. One thinks of the broad top surface of some Arts and Crafts case pieces:

http://www.voorheescraftsman.com/product/338/Gustav%20Stickley%20Harvey%20Ellis%20inspired%20two%20door%20bookcase%20with%20inlaid%20doors..html

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shea Homes has a site with this project under Point Richmond that includes floor plans.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sheahomes.com/community/waterline/
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did we see this one already ? No interiors, oddly. Copper downspouts are handled neatly; not so a yellow surface-mounted conduit ? Another builder who seems not to know that trees continue to grow in girth . . .

A different and smaller house, shown in two photos at the bottom, seems more successful.

http://www.architectureartdesigns.com/a-contemporary-prairie-house-by-yunakov-architecture-in-kiev-ukraine/

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