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Did Wright Use Striated Plywood? If so How extentsive?
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JeffNichols



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Did Wright Use Striated Plywood? If so How extentsive? Reply with quote

Recently we started producing striated plywood. I have been told that Wright used some of this in some of his homes, but not sure. Anyone know for sure, and if so, are there any pictures available?

thanks,
Jeff Nichols
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peterm



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Walker house in Carmel used it extensively for the ceilings and exterior eaves...
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JeffNichols



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterm wrote:
The Walker house in Carmel used it extensively for the ceilings and exterior eaves...


Have any idea of there are any pictures of it's use?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


photo 1988 by Scot Zimmerman


photo Alan Weintraub


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JeffNichols



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR wrote:




Thanks for posting these. The outside soffits look pretty weary, understandably. I wish the interior was a bit clearer. But I really appreciate the posts.

Jeff
www.vintageplywood.com
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The exterior photo should be credited to Scot Zimmerman. It was published in Romanza, 1988 by Chronicle books.

The interior photo is by Alan Weintraub, from Frank Lloyd Wright -- Mid-Century Modern, 2007 by RIZZOLI INTERNATIONAL PUBLICATIONS, INC. There are several other photos showing the ceilings and soffits, including two good ones. Exterior soffits on the sheltered side of the house appear in good shape; the living room features a broad soffit inside the hexagonal-plan window wall.

Offhand I am not aware of other Wright houses using this material -- but there may well be one or more out there.

SDR
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SDR



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are photos from another of our members. I'll let him describe them.


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peterm



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The photographs which SDR just posted show the interior of our former house in Altadena, Ca. The ceiling and walls were all sheathed in striated (combed) plywood. Most of the rooms had a white washed stain applied similar to what Rudolf Schindler used. The kitchen ceiling had a reddish color stain, and the second bedroom ceiling had a soft sage green stain.

I love the material. It brings a nice texture, but it main attribute is the elimination of any visible seams due to the seemingly random variation in widths of the grooves.

Glad you are resuscitating this fine material!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Your Altadena home Reply with quote

Was this a FLR home or ??
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither FLR nor FLW Wink :

http://www.savewright.org/wright_chat/viewtopic.php?t=3388&highlight=kenneth+gordon Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry!! Too sleepy, too busy, or too quick.

I meant FLW!! Shocked
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J.Meyers



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCartney House in Kalamazoo Michigan.

It was used on all exterior soffits.

There are two areas on the west elevation where it was used. As a vertical wall application. ( after studying plans / elevations McCartney's should have installed a horizontal board and batten system)


Eventually I will replace these two areas with the much needed horizontal board and batten line. I plan to use the material I take off for future soffit repairs.


As stated butting the 4 x 8 sheets show little or no butted seams....
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butting side to side would make an invisible seam. Butting end to end might be another matter. At Walker, the exterior soffits
and some ceilings are butted side to side; the seams are covered with battens. But there's a tricky scarf joint at each soffit
panel in the living room. See below.




Walker bedroom addition. It appears that the soffit above the bed has its panels applied edge to edge without battens.





Walker living room. The long side of the soffit trapezoid is 12 feet; the short edge is 8 feet. Note the diagonal cut starting at the left interior end; at the
upper right of the photo another nearly invisible diagonal cut can be seen -- with the grain of the panels perfectly matched ! These butts presumably
allowed the parts to be cut from 4 x 8 panels . . .

Photographs can be remarkably informative when one searches them for details.

photos Alan Weintraub

SDR
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCartney owner John Myers sends photos:



1. West Cantilever soffit.



2. West Elevation, phase #2 former Carport tool Room. Phase #3 it has been enclosed & is used as a closet.



3. West Elevation. Vertical application is incorrect per the plans. Eventually it will be removed & restored with horizontal mahogany board & batten.



4. Exterior screened porch soffit w/ triangle lights.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, thanks for sharing the pictures of how the striated plywood was used in your FLW home. It's interesting to see all the various ways it was incorporated.

Here's some examples of our reproduction. The first one is simply an edge view, and the second one is from one of our customers who was not yet finished with the installation and painting.



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