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Article: FLW and the Wisconsin Dells Bridge

 
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DavidC



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Article: FLW and the Wisconsin Dells Bridge Reply with quote

What we said... 60 years ago: Let Wright design the Dells bridge


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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a drawing of this bridge?
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jmcnally



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: bridge Reply with quote

I'm curious what was actually built - the Dells is such a busy area, it's hard to figure out exactly where the bridge would be since there seems to be a few.

Free services are sometimes shunned in local government because it's hard to calculate a kickback as a percentage of the contract price. Rumor has it that's why Detroit didn't accept a Disney offer of a free monorail system (to prove its suitability in northern weather) and instead opted for the light rail People Mover system. It may not be true, but it's the way business and citizens viewed the city's government.
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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: bridge Reply with quote

jmcnally wrote:
Free services are sometimes shunned in local government because it's hard to calculate a kickback as a percentage of the contract price.


Sounds like Illinois!!
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george nichols



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: "Butterfly Bridge" Reply with quote

T4723: Butterfly Winged Bridge.

Mono.V.7,176
Taschen V.3,119
"Treasures of Taliesin",44a & 44b.

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Paul Ringstrom



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



HT: Linda E.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The above-mentioned bridge was designed for a crossing of the Wisconsin River near Taliesin, according to the text of "Treasures of Taliesin" which contains a color version of the drawing shown here. The drawing is labeled "Butterfly-Wing Bridge," though Mr Pheiffer's text calls it simply Butterfly Bridge.

Also included is a rough sketch of a bridge for the so-called Second Crossing of the southern part of San Francisco Bay. A finished view of that design, and a photo of the model, are found on Aaron Green's site:

http://www.agaarchitects.com/pages/agg_and_fllw/butterfly.html

I have seen bigger and better reproductions of both the drawing and the model. Maybe someone here can point us to those . . .
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the text and sketch from "Treasures of Taliesin." The writer speaks of Wright's innovation as though it were the first reinforced-concrete bridge designed by man.
Robert Maillart built graceful reinforced-concrete arches starting c. 1930.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maillart

Perhaps Olga scripted the lines attributed to Mr Pfeiffer ?


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Macrodex



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Butterfly Bridge can briefly be seen in Die Hard; no surprise considering Joel Silver was involved.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, were all these bridges dubbed "Butterfly" -- either during or after Wright's time ?

I see, upon reading the copy on A A Green's page, that the SF bridge was to connect Caesar Chavez (née Army) Street to a point just north of the Oakland airport -- hardly a "southern crossing," as I had previously thought. This was in (Wright's) preference to a second Bay Bridge paralleling the first -- which is just now being superceded by a new span in roughly the same place as that originally-proposed double, I guess. (Some voices are now heard in support of leaving the old bridge in place, for any of several reasons . . .)


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