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Reidy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:45 pm    Post subject: Aaron Green for Sale Reply with quote

Search on 3512 Ross.

Is the part about Eichler accurate? This looks bigger and more luxe than what he typically built.
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JChoate



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Everything about that is good.
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Tom



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep
Great roof.
Wonder if the columns are solid wood or boxed steel?
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jay



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice!
Aaron Green worked with Eichler?
Here's a direct listing with the same photos (I like seeing the google map)
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Palo-Alto/3512-Ross-Rd-94303/home/598792

Looking at the satellite image and the lot lines....wow...talk about using the site to its fullest potential.
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Matt2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful architecture.

It appears from the photos that Green is using an interesting type of column that I'm trying to track the history of. This is a column of wood with a hefty center mass and thinner side elements that give an almost I-beam look. When the column joins the roof beam, the side elements continue to rise up and "embrace" the beam.

Anyone know anything about this structural system?
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt, it's a form of post and beam structure; the detail you point to has been used by others, and perhaps once before by Green, in the 1961 Paulsen residence, Portola Valley CA. It provides for uninterrupted
glazing of a common width, from floor to ceiling---and certainly reads as a robust connection between post and beam, perhaps more convincing than any other ?

Bill Schwarz writes: "That is the house Aaron designed for a certain Richard Walker. It’s included on Page 411 of the Henning book about Aaron and later
in the chronological list [p 428] as a 1965 project. The Eichler Homes citation as its builder is accurate, and it was designed from the start with it in mind
that it would be 'Eichler friendly.' Aaron’s house for Walter Mischel on the Stanford campus was also custom-built by Eichler."

On page 431 of the same volume is another listing for Richard Walker, an unbuilt residence in Maui, 1997. The earlier listing includes one small exterior photo of little use in identifying the Palo Alto house.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great house...the design gives a strong impression of the house forming a garden wall with a glass pavilion projecting into the garden. The suspended bunk bed is a slick surprise.
The Aaron Green monograph is full of gems like this...
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The exterior view supports DRN's impression; the ratio of interior volume to roof overhang is impressive. It would be fine to see a plan ...

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Roderick Grant



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is excellent. Love the massive mantel.
The minimal list of materials, simplicity of construction, countered by a triangular grid ... truly an elegant residence. I wish Henning had given it more coverage.
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Matt2



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDR thanks for the information and the observation about the system allowing for the same width of glass floor to ceiling. It is a system an architect in the Northwest, Paul Kirk, used a lot. I'm trying to see if this was his innovation or if he adapted it from another architect. I've seen some homes by Paul Rudolf use similar sandwiched columns.
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SDR



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes---I guess that's where I saw it ... I really do like the detail, though in the present Green case the proportion of post to beam width seems a bit off; the post plates are to wide relative to the depth of the beam, visually if not structurally.

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Matt2



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. There is something slightly off about the proportions. Are such proportions dictated purely by some engineering formula? I'm not an architect and not sure how such things are determined. I'm guessing weight of the roof divided by the number of support columns would establish the required size of each column?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, engineering is the term for the art which enables rational decision-making about the sizes and substances, the fasteners and the "safety margins" of built
mechanisms. There's nothing (short of budgetary considerations) to stop an architect from choosing to use a beam which is deeper, and therefore capable
of a greater span, than the one specified by his engineer. To compensate, of course, he might choose a material with less strength---a different specie of
wood or alloy of steel---to compensate, perhaps restoring balance to the budget ...?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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