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One error that has been published and which awaits correction: on page 45 of his book, Curtis Besinger reproduces a photo contributed by Jack Howe in which appears a Cord phaeton identified as belonging to Mr Wright. The owner of the car is unknown to me; Wright's only Cord appears to have been the earlier model, a 1929 L-29 Phaeton Sedan.
Since our last look at the subject, this blog has appeared online:
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2020/04 ... rated.html
Do not miss the linked article by Mary Jane Hamilton, which goes into the matter of Wright's Cords at length.
Among many other bits of minutia, the Hamilton article reveals the interesting mistake which resulted in the orange color currently applied to Wright's second Cord . . .
A BDalton bookstore at the long gone Granite Run Mall in Media, PA, used to carry AQ when I was a kid...I bought the occasional copy or asked for one to be put away as a gift if an issue captured my interest. I still have one that featured Studebaker, Avanti II’s, the Bugatti Royale, and Burma Shave roadside jingles.
My recent search was relative to Voisin cars ... I’m expecting Volume 13 Number 4 in the next couple of weeks.
I was more than satisfied with Herink’s effort in The Car is Architecture...it was a good start to a most arcane realm of Wright study. From it we learned the cars Wright (or his Foundation/ business) owned; we learned the story of the Cherokee Red color’s introduction to Wright’s consciousness; and the specific color the Wright saw, liked, and requested. (1935 Oldsmobile color #108 Cherokee Red, as manufactured by DuPont #246-30986)
There was at least one car-themed bookstore in San Francisco before the turn of the present century; one of its offerings was a Japanese or Korean periodical devoted to automotive design. Various issues contained articles like the one I referred to earlier: "Development of the GM F-body models for 1982." Numerous shots of half- and full-sized "clays," positioned on hidden supports and with real-appearing tires and wheels and chrome (how did they do that ? aluminum foil ?) and blacked-out windows, showing versions of production cars which the public never saw, created to assess their appearance in advance of a final selection for production. Sometimes the clay would have alternate versions of certain details on each side of the replica.
CGI has given us “virtual reality” for the proposed, but there was something to the craft of a physical model and the impact that 3 dimensional object must have had in a corporate board room or automotive styling studio showroom that has been lost in the trade. CNC can approach it, but there is an artificial quality to those efforts, at least to my eye.
Was the model your dad did at 1:1 scale, or larger ?
The instrument under development was a bench top integrator which was to interface with other bench top lab equipment HP produced, notably gas chromatographs. My father and HP were looking not just at physical appearance, but also how the object would fit into a lab setting, how it would be accessed, how connections would be made, how much valuable space would be taken up, etc.
Dad described an industrial designer’s work as the architecture of consumer products.
I will let readers identify any further errata. Information new to me includes a generously-quoted 1932 lecture on the "assembled house." And he finds a 1948 Oldsmobile print ad with the Affleck Usonian in the background (I hadn't known they did that; later Olds ads sported fictional modern houses).
As usual, these images can be enlarged to their original size by opening them in a new tab on your computer. Right-click on image, select "open image in new tab." The URL will appear on the address line at top of screen.
(The wheels of Wright's futuristic vehicles are embarrassingly drawn as circles rather than ellipses---discs in perspective.)
There is a lot of meat in the essay. Wright is quoted usefully; obscure bits of Wrightiana are brought to light. I learned things I did not know, on several subjects.
Wright really saw what the post-war American car was becoming: a bloated babe, overhanging its track more every year, "gnashing its teeth at you for no good reason" (Buick et al ?). Good thing he didn't live to see the 'sixties and beyond ! Of course, by the later 'sixties the track had grown to the width of the body, as designers finally caught on to what the Europeans knew all along: that the car is about its wheels, first of all !
Would he have fallen for the spare and smooth '61 Continental, as so many others did ? Would he have approved of the graceful s e x y animals that GM and Chrysler came up with for their "muscle cars" ? We'll never know.
(Honestly---we are the most prudish nation on Earth ! You can watch a movie on TV, and the nude art on the walls will have been blurred out . . . for pity's sake.)
The only other error I detected was the misspelling of the Packard showroom owner’s
last name: correct spelling is Wetmore, not Westmore.
As to later American made cars that Wright might have liked, I’d think the 1966-67 Olds Toronado might have been his cup of tea...roomy rear seat with relatively easy entry, long hood, sleek lines, front wheel drive..the virtues of which he extolled in hi autobiography.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hemmin ... ronado/amp
https://journal.classiccars.com/2019/02 ... -toronado/
As to the styling of the car, it occurred upon first sight that two references to the later Cord might be found on the exterior, namely the circular piercing of the wheels and wheel covers, and the horizontal slats or ribs of the grille.
I also recall one of the magazines publishing a contribution from a reader---a doctor or dentist, as I recall it---who provided a subtly shortened version of the body---made very neatly, in the days before Photoshop---by removing material from ahead of the front wheels, behind the rear wheels, and somewhere in the middle.