Frank Lloyd Wright Glass Tiles

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krietzerjak
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Post by krietzerjak »

I haven't seen any with just an L. What I have seen is the Luxfer name (and I don't remember the rest of what was written right now) It was one of the tiles with no flower or any design, but had the full name LUXFER plus.....??????
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Post by swernecke »

[quote="krietzerjak"]I haven't seen any with just an L. What I have seen is the Luxfer name (and I don't remember the rest of what was written right now) It was one of the tiles with no flower or any design, but had the full name LUXFER plus.....??????
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Right. He says he has a plain tile with Luxfer on it, but like I showed, there is a tile with a small L on it. Im curious.

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Post by FarmerBill »

For what it's worth, in Frank Lloyd Wright's Stained Glass & Lightscreens (p. 50 of the paperback edition printed in 2000), author Thomas A. Heinz writes:

"Luxfer prisms spread quickly throughout the U.S. and Europe. Wright designed many prism plate patterns, but fewer than five different ones were actually manufactured.
Number 321 was the least common and number 322 the most common."

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Post by SDR »

For what it's worth, that account almost agrees with the one on this page http://glassian.org/Prism/FLW/index.html (linked on the previous page of the thread). Unfortunately, the images on that page are given only their patent (?) numbers. Is there a place where one can see the tile designs with the numbers being discussed here ?

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Post by krietzerjak »

Here is a set of pictures showing the patented designs. Starting at number 536, in the upper left, click the right arrow to scan images to 576. I don't remember seeing most of these. I haven't looked at the site much, there may be more Wright designs in the 642 images.

This is from the same site SDR shows, but you can see each picture separately.


http://glassian.org/Prism/Patent/D27977/drawing.html


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Post by SDR »

Okay. So, where did Mr Heinz find the numbers 321 and 322 ?


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Post by krietzerjak »

I would guess the numbers Heinz used are from a Luxfer catalog. The numbers I mention in my last message are only that website's numbers for their pictures.

It seems like I saw a book a long time ago that showed all these, and it may have had the catalog numbers for each design.

Andy

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Post by swernecke »

That website is really cool! Im going to see if I can get over to his house tomorrow morning to get a pic of the Luxfer tile itself. He said he has one but just needs the help getting to it. If it really is rare it might be worth something.

I know he wants to get rid of the ones he has, any idea on where to start selling?

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Post by Roderick Grant »

Antiques Roadshow. It's not about art or antiques; it's about profit. Cash in hand is always the punch line.

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Post by krietzerjak »

Just looked over the ones I got recently. All 5 of the plain tiles have the "L" you mention. It is hard to photograph, but I just never noticed it before. I believe this is to let the person installing it know what side is down. There is a distinctive prism direction, as you can see in one of my pictures attached. It was designed to bring light as far into the building as possible. The side view shows it as it should be installed, notice the flats are at a different angle. Also one shot of the flower design. All mine have a slight purple tint.

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Post by SDR »

Having seen lots of old Sandwich glass (from Cape Cod) with this purple tint, I'm assuming the color is a matter of imperfect material aging badly. Who would want their carefully-managed daylight to be thus tinged ? I can't believe that the makers -- or their designer -- would have wanted anything but clear glass as a marketable product . . .

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Post by swernecke »

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Box of loose tiles

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Half tile

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Luxfer tile, he has at least 2-3 of these in the panes

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Post by krietzerjak »

"Most glass that turns purple after being exposed to sunlight for an extended period of time was likely manufactured between 1880 and 1914, although there are a few exceptions, said Hill.

Glass made prior to 1880 would take on different-colored tints when exposed to sunlight, depending on the minerals present in the glass formula. If iron was present, for example, the glass would turn aqua, said Sylvia Sanford, owner of The Bargain Spot, another local antiques and collectibles shop. If lead was present, it would turn gray, and if selenium was present, it would turn yellow, she said. But public concern with the purity of preserved food created a demand for clarified glass, according to the National Parks Service Web site (www.cr.nps.gov)."


Read more: http://www.yumasun.com/articles/glass-2 ... z2ln5dM7rX

http://www.yumasun.com/articles/glass-2 ... tique.html

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FLW glass flower tile with a K on it

Post by sgrdst82 »

my boyfriend is an architect and I bought him 3 of the FLW glass flower tiles with the small triangles, they are purple tint but there is a K on the front of the tile. I have tried searching and haven't seen any of the flower tiles with a K on the bottom. I'm not sure if they are fake or legit tiles.

I'm not sure if the person who originally started this thread will see this but,

in your tiles you said that you have L or K on them... by any chance you have a flower tile with a K on it that you can take a picture of?

thanks

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Post by swernecke »

Im not sure if we have any flowers with the K on them.

How much did you pay for them by chance?


They're all at my dads in his garage lol

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