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I am perplexed becasue their website says they do not do in house remote archives searches.
They say you can come and take pictures or you can hire someone on their recommendation to do the in-person research for you.
GDorn seems to have managed a break through.
Although there was some other guy here who said Avery was sending him digital images,
but he would not share his info.
I do think for posting here on WrightChat they will require copyright information to be associated with each image.
Pretty sure they specify that on their info-web.
If this manages actually to happen for us ...
Well I don't know what, but some kind of party or wild rumpus would be in order.
hank you for your message. The study images that I can share with you can only be used for private study purposes. Should you wish publish any of the images (including online), please reach back to us and we can provide details on our fees and procedures. Also, if you intend to publish or exhibit the 3D models you are working on, you will have to seek curatorial approval from the Curator of Avery Drawings & Archives.
The Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation Archives now reside in New York, but all copyright and intellectual property rights for the original materials were retained by the Foundation in Arizona and only they or their authorized representatives are able to grant permission.
The study images I will share with you are digital copies of the drawings we hold for each FLW projects. In some instances, there are drawings with measurements, but not for all projects.
Please do not hesitate to reach back out to us with any other questions you may have.
Im rather confused by their attitude to sharing what they have - what are they worried about. Not sure now If I am allowed to say anything.
Goetche-Winkler house - seen all drawings before- as those noted in that thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4222&start=135 resolution is better thus can zoom in and read the notes.
Pauson house - lots of plans - looks like air-conditioning ducting was incorporated or atleast studied to see if it could be.
entry at one stage had a flying bridge!
Lloyd Lewis utility building
Lloyd Lewis Guest house
community church - Kansas Don't know why I received that - didn't ask for it!
I think I'll comment separately in each thread
I am really please they are prepared to provide these drawings.
Pew house - mainly of the original design - as built design has same drawing already seen - no others - a bit disappointing
Sturges house - similar drawings seen before- but can be zoomed in - some studies of the floor framing and an additional section - kinda helpful
Schwartz house ( 2 rivers) - has framing plans - yes 3 x steel to carport, steel to river end of trellis - really helpful
With or without the cooperation of Avery, it would be worthwhile, if difficult and tedious, to scour the history of this site for all drawings we have already acquired to date, by whatever means, and transfer them to project-specific threads, perhaps titled with a numeric code that would help to dredge them up, perhaps in a Wiki-Wiki thing, as David C. suggested.
I wonder what this is all about - Ive asked that someone from the archives post on this thread some explanationI have been notified that you posted five images from project 3904 Bernard Schwartz house (Two Rivers, Wisconsin) in a blog post on the Frank Lloyd Wright Building Conservancy's Wright Chat (link). Allow me to kindly remind you that I have explained you in my email from Wednesday, May 27th, that the study images I was sharing with you could only be used for private study purposes. I also mentioned that if you intended to publish them (even online), you should reach back to us so that we could provide details on our fees and procedures.
I fully understand how relevant these images are to support your argument and I wish we could make these images more easily accessible. I will confer with the Curator of Avery Drawings & Archives, Jennifer Gray, to see what can be done about this. In the meantime howerver, I would kindly ask you not to use these images in other blog post.
I also think GDorn should not be represented as a single voice to Avery.
If an apologetic letter expressing our wishes needs to be written I'd be willing to sign. I'd hope others would be as well.
The neutral thing about posting on WrightChat is that no one is making money directly from these images
-although public access like this could possibly reduce their potential "customer base" I guess.
It does seem like a problem that Avery would be willing to labor to make these only privately available while not reducing their labor and making them publically available on a specialized website such as this one.
Wondering if they would make GDorn WrightChat's official Avery representative who could then distribute images to a group email for private viewing. Otherwise do they intend to respond to each of us individually?
http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewto ... 4&start=60
As the files provided are PDF's , Ive had to screenshot them to png format, and then hosted them on my Flickr account. Iv posted them to the forum to aid in my study of this usonian house, and to get others feedback on what I understand about its construction - in particular the unseens parts - ie framing system.
The only way someone else can see the images is via this Wrightchat thread - As far as I know!
( I do know its rather easy to copy an image address and post it anywhere and google search often picks up images posted on the Wrightchat forum)
As to being a representative :
I'd prefer someone local deal with the archives and Foundation - as I am on the other side of the planet with some 12 hr time difference - I just happen to be the one to initially ask for online access to the archives- and with everyone lockdown I suppose its just been an opportune moment.
Still I thoroughly recommend anyone request a drawings search of any of the FLW projects they have listed.
This list of available documents ( ie FLW buildings and projects) is here
https://findingaids.library.columbia.ed ... 1376/dsc/6