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Lloyd was married twice.DavidC wrote:Wright's children with Catherine Tobin:
Frank Lloyd Wright Jr aka Lloyd Wright: Born 3/31/1890 in Oak Park, Illinois. Architect in Los Angeles, California. Died 5/31/1978 in Santa Monica, California. Married once.
John Lloyd Wright: Born 12/12/1892 in Oak Park, Illinois. Inventor of Lincoln Logs. He died on 12/20/1972 in Del Mar, San Diego, California. Married three times.
Catherine Dorothy Wright: Born 1/12/1894 in Oak Park, Illinois. Died 1/27/1979. Married once. One of her children was actress Anne Baxter.
David Samuel Wright: Born 9/26/1895 in Oak Park, Illinois. A businessman. Died 11/1/1997. Married three times.
Frances Lloyd Wright: Born 9/3/1898 in Oak Park, Illinois. Died 2/11/1959. Married twice.
Robert Llewellyn Wright: Born 11/5/1903 in Oak Park, Illinois. Lawyer. Died 2/22/1986. Married once.
Poor Iovanna! She resisted this, was pressured into it by her Mothers confidants and reviled by her family. I believe this is what finally drove her over the edge. She still speaks of it regularly and her belief that the whole world reviles her for carrying out her Mothers wishes. After they helped driver Iovanna to madness and a wedge between her, her family and the Loyalists to Mr. Wright they moved to exile her. Last I spoke with her she was not even allowed to visit Taliesin or the Suntrap,she claims it was always promised to her to be her home as long as she lived. Iovanna was totally betrayed by everyone, except I understand Indira.Laurie Virr wrote:Palli Davis Holubar here makes her usual perceptive contribution.
In her heart of hearts Olgivanna knew that she was never more than second best in the affections of Frank Lloyd Wright. Mamah Borthwick Cheney was the love of his life.
The architect incorporated some of the stones blackened by the fire at Taliesin in Wisconsin into the new structure, and these would have been a constant reminder to Olgivanna of her position in the scheme of things. Surely this was not the least of the reasons she embraced the construction of Taliesin West with such alacrity?
Exhuming the remains of Frank Lloyd Wright from the site he had chosen for his grave, next that of Mamah Borthwick Cheney, and disposing of them in the manner Olgivanna requested, was the final act of revenge against the woman whose shadow had hung over her for more than 60 years. That her daughter and confidants acquiesced to this act, which was both petty and monstrous, says nothing for their characters.
Was the exhumation an officially authorized act? If not, did not such act constitute a Federal offense, and why were charges never laid?
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Is the man in this shot standing in front of another pot cut into glass?
In that case are we talking about his and her pots?
Well what da ya know. The ashes may not be there but I'd say SDR's surmise that this is the intended spot is probably accurate.
The inside/out move, in the context of burial is not so crazy, rather symbolic like the words in the Moody Blues ode to Timothy Leary: "Timothy Leary's dead. Oh, no, no. He's outside, looking in."
Despite the intrigue of the notion of placing the remains of an architect who spent his life blurring the distinction of indoors and outdoors in a piece of pottery which both inside AND outside, I find it hard to believe cremains would be left in an open container on a low shelf in a space that is visited by thousands of tourists each year. The chance of a gum wrapper, a tissue, or some other bit of detritus becoming mingled with the contents is too great. If the cremains are in that space, I'd have to believe they are in a closed container, probably out of view and certainly out of reach.
It would seem we Chatters have touched a nerve...few of us have ever met Iovanna and, for most of us, all that we know of her is what has been written about her by various, at times conflicting, sources. From what we have read, it can be surmised that she has led a troubled life, that at times for reasons we may not completely understand was out of her control. I don't believe any of the postings in these threads have necessarily passed judgement on Iovanna....it would seem that though Olgivanna's wishes were contrary to many, there were others that were determined to carry them out. Had Iovanna not signed the paper authorizing her father's exhumation, Olgivanna's "will" would most likely have been done in any case by other means. That the remains of FLLW are no longer in his family graveyard is because of Olgivanna, not Iovanna.
The question for me, at least, at this point is what is the design history of this crossing, how did it evolve and who designed what we see now and when was that first in place? It's a riddle in any case. Too intentional not to mean something. I mean I agree with RG. It's gimmicky if we think that Wright did this just to make room for a vase. But if it was an effort to represent some kind of continuity through death than it takes on a different aspect.