Lynn Hall and Fallingwater

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DavidC
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Lynn Hall and Fallingwater

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Post by SDR »

Well, there is certainly some truth-stretching there !

"The use of radiant heat,
which was regarded as progressive when
used at Fallingwater, “is probably some-
thing Wright picked up from Walter J.
Hall,� says Toker. And Hall, who had used a
40-foot reinforced concrete beam that pro-
vided the spine for Lynn Hall, appears to
have drawn on that experience in his con-
struction at Fallingwater."

If so (to the last point), maybe Hall's estate should have been billed for the reconstruction work carried out recently ?

The bit about the hearth boulder is garbled -- by Hall and by the author ? -- as well.

Nevertheless, Hall's own house is not the work of an amateur designer, in my estimation. Perhaps both Wright and Hall had more going as designers than as builders ?

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Post by Palli Davis Holubar »

Is this the house on that amateur video that was posted months back?

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Post by SDR »

No -- I'm not sure we have seen this before.

David, could you perhaps transmit a PDF copy at smaller size -- say a width of 1200 ?

Thanks for digging this up ! Very interesting matter. I like his stone veneer, and the big exterior "lanterns". . .

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Post by Wrightgeek »

No, this is not the incomplete amatuer knock-off of Fallingwater that was posted sometime ago here on Wright Chat, I'm sure of that.

That said, from the photos I have seen of this structure (which is quite interesting I might add), I see more of Graycliff in this building than I do of Fallingwater, although there are very slight hints to me of FW. But because Graycliff was a forerunner of FW in my mind, it is easy to understand why some FW ques might show up in this structure.

As we know, Graycliff was executed in the late 1920's, not too far from this PA property, and before Fallingwater. There was some reference made in this story that the builder of this unique property visited or at the very least had awareness of Wright's work in the Buffalo area.

Based on the above, I would suggest that this PA work was not the forerunner of Fallingwater, but was in fact itself inspired by Graycliff. And since Graycliff laid the groundwork for FLW to eventually create Fallingwater, it is understandable how the claims that this other PA structure might have been the genesis for Fallingwater have arisen, false or not. I believe false, but I'll let others chime in and decide for themselves.

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Post by SDR »

Wrightgeek, do you have photos of Graycliff that I could see ? I'm curious to see what features you find that point to Fallingwater and/or to the Hall residence.

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Post by Wrightgeek »

SDR-

For photos, I suggest that you visit the Graycliff website.

As far as the Fallingwater attributions go, it has been suggested that Graycliff was a transitional building for FLW between the Prairie style of 1893-1916 and his ultimate response to the modern movement in Europe, which culminated with Fallingwater in 1936-38.

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It was about Graycliff that FLW said, "A doctor can bury his mistakes. All an architect can do is plant ivy."

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Post by SDR »

Graycliff was built without his supervision -- but to his drawings ?

It appears to me a throwback -- all the way to the late-nineteenth-century British craft architects ? -- rather than a bridge to Usonia (or Fallingwater, if you will). Date and physical proximity do not a lineage make. . .

As for the Hall opus, that seems to advance upon Graycliff in terms of form and detail both. It is definitely more Modern -- if not Moderne, or Organic -- to my eye.

Here's a question: Does Fallingwater have "gravity heat" (i.e., pipes in the floors) ?

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Post by Roderick Grant »

FW has radiators.

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Post by SDR »

Thanks. So, if Wright learned of radiant heat from Walter Hall (as was suggested), it wasn't a lesson applied at Fallingwater.

Doesn't the Willey residence have pipes under that lovely brick floor -- or is Jacobs the first installation ?

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Post by Roderick Grant »

Willey, radiators; Jacobs I, first use of radiant heating.

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Post by Paul Ringstrom »

Roderick Grant wrote:It was about Graycliff that FLW said, "A doctor can bury his mistakes. All an architect can do is plant ivy."
Is this quote documented somewhere to show that it explicitly refers to Graycliff? I had always heard that it referred to the first building his aunts used for a school in Spring Green (a non-Wrightian design) or to a building directly across the street from that school building.

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Post by SDR »

I await the day that every line of the Autobiography is searchable. Son John says (in "My Father. . .") explicitly that Wright didn't want indexes in his books. . .!

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Post by DavidC »

SDR wrote:David, could you perhaps transmit a PDF copy at smaller size -- say a width of 1200 ?SDR
Stephen:

You can always go to the top toolbar on the PDF page and shrink the size of the page. For example, the file in question loads at 153% on my screen. Going to the toolbar and dropping it to 100% (or less) seems to make it much more manageable.


David

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