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Paper research project

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:33 am
by robinjulien

Here is the download link for my paper and research bundle.

The movie will follow later. I hope you will like it.


Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:56 pm
by Paul Ringstrom
There is said to be a copy of the Goetsch-Winkley House at 472 Burton Avenue, Highland Park, IL.

On Google all you can see is the end of the house that has the carport.

Can't see anything on Bing due to trees.

HT: Mark O.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:31 pm
by Roderick Grant
Google Maps indicates that the back side of the house is larger than G/W, as if the SW wall of the living room extends to the NW end wall of the bedroom wing, filling in the area where the lanai is located.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:56 pm
by SDR
robinjulien's link won't connect, for me. "Safari can't find the server". Anyone ?


Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:08 am
by Wrighter
SDR--robinjulien's link is from 2010. The site may not exist anymore.

(Wasn't that Kim Dotcom's website, that went under when he was arrested?)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:51 am
by Tom
Same here. KimDotCom's server was taken down by the Feds I think.
Anyway, sure would like to see this research.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:35 am
by SDR
The Highland Park copy is interesting. I don't expect miracles. The added bedrooms may have come later ? Note deflecting carport roof in street view.

In my imagination the G/W is a bi-level house, with a step down toward the hillside view. But of course it's a single-level slab . . .


Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:23 pm
by DavidC
Bringing the Goetsch-Winckler thread to post-outage status.

search terms: geotsch, winkler, okemos


Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:34 pm
by DRN
Still not coming up in searches...
Goetsch, Winckler, Okemos , Goetsch-Winckler

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:23 pm
by SDR

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:28 pm
by DRN
Thanks for that SDR. We now have this thread and links to other related threads findable on the Chat’s search.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:26 pm
by SDR
There's some oddity in the thread numbering, which I had assumed to be serial and chronological; I guess not, somehow ? I've added the date of the first post, in each case . . .


Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:15 am
by DavidC
Goetsch-Winckler, Goetsch, Winckler

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:36 pm
by Tom
Trying out my new skill with the insert image button.
The roof framing plan is already posted on page 3 of this thread.
But here goes again.

The steel supporting the carport has always confused me. I now think its all in the same plane, welded, and held in place by a bunch of bricks on top.
The carport steel has two sections pointing to the top of the drawing with their lower ends balanced on either of the short ends of the dark brick rectangle in plan. The third steel section is at right angles to these two and in line with the long top edge of the dark brick rectangle. It is cantilevered to the right of the drawing.
These three sections are probably welded and all act together.

The bricks counter balancing this steel surprise me. They keep a very low profile. I thought there would have to be more.
Maybe if you take one brick out - the carport collapses.

Ta Dah:


Wish I could zoom in on the carport.


Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:51 pm
by juankbedoya
SDR wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:55 pm
I would second EJ's excellent advice, robin. Few of Wright's works have received the kind of detailed attention which the Goetsch-Winckler residence has, in this book.

The book is: "Affordable Dreams: the Goetsch-Winckler House and Frank Lloyd Wright," edited by Susan J Bandes, and published as the Kresge Art Museum Bulletin,
Special Issue, Vol VI, 1991, by Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI 48824.

Below are three of the plans reproduced in "Affordable Dreams," along with the author's notes for those plates.

In return for this favor, I wonder if you would be so kind as to edit your original entry for this thread, correcting the name of the house to its accepted form and spelling ?
You will find an "edit" button at the upper right of each of your entries.


In addition to the credits given, all images © 1991 by the Board of Trustees, Michigan State University, and Susan J Bandes
Am I the only one who sees Van der Rohe's Barcelona Pavilion influence here..?