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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:57 am
by Tom
Realized this about GW only recently.
The concept of the house is tied closely to the site in the following way..
The downhill slope is screened by the house on approach as the slab is significantly elevated.
(It could have been built further back on flatter ground - although reducing front yard.)
The occupant enters the house and directly ahead are the tall living room windows that from the entry point would frame the tops or middle of trees. As one approaches the windows you gain the sense of being elevated.

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:16 pm
by SDR
Yes. And, although it may be invisible to all but the photographer, could this view have had something to do with the placement of the house ?

Again and again, when presented with a site that includes a drop of that sort, Mr Wright perches the house where it will present, in both drawing and photograph, the most dramatic effect---never mind the extra expense in groundwork and masonry units ! The list of Usonians---and other houses, going all the way back to Hardy---which include this feature is quite long.

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Long after becoming aware of Goetsch-Winckler and gaining an initial understanding of the house, I could not keep straight in my mind that the house is built on single planar slab. In a response to the site condition, it must have seemed clear that the floor level of the living room and its nook would be at least a riser, if not two or three, down from the entry and the implied passage connecting the workspace with the bedroom gallery.

Naturally, this (mis)conception of the house took no account of the placement of the dining table . . .!

S

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:27 pm
by Tom
And this shot shows the "lanai" elevated too.
How long have I seen shots of that outdoor space and assumed it was built on flat terra firma?
...decades long.

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:56 pm
by Roderick Grant
Considering the topography of the lot, FLW's choice would have been the only one acceptable to him. To the NW, there is not a lot of space between Hulett Road and a water feature that appears on the plot plan for the proposed development, shown in Sergeant, page 78, so the house is placed exactly halfway between... though there is no indication that such a waterway has survived. There was plenty of space toward the NE, but it is all flat and was intended to be cultivated, so would not be able to take advantage of the view of the stream. The edge of the drop is the only place with any sort of view. It also is oriented toward the SW, a favored situation for FLW.

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:31 am
by Tom

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:11 pm
by g.dorn
woops

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:18 pm
by g.dorn
I reckon this view is similar to the hillside school

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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house - a 2nd house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:29 pm
by g.dorn
according to avery archives, 10 years after this house was built,
Mr wright was engaged by Alma and Kathrine to do another house in 1949

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Project 5006 Alma Goetsch and Kathrine Winckler house 2 (Okemos, Michigan). Unbuilt Project 1949
Drawings : 22 items


https://findingaids.library.columbia.ed ... 1376/dsc/8

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:34 pm
by SDR
Goetsch-Winckler II:

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Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:36 pm
by SDR
An interesting question to answer: How many of Wright's clients asked for a design for a second residence---and of those, how many were built ?

S

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:48 pm
by DavidC
Penfield II - not built.


David

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 10:30 pm
by Reidy
Alice Millard built a second house in Pasadena after the Highland Park house she and her husband had built.

Pretty sure Thomas and Laura Gale owned one of the Chicago Avenue bootlegs (developed by his brother Walter) and later commissioned a large prairie house, never built. After his death she built a summer house in Michigan and, later, her well-known house in Oak Park.

The Littles built a house in Peoria and later one in Minnesota.

Herbert and Katherine Jacobs commissioned three, built the first and the third.

Some say the Kaufman project in Palm Springs was for Edgar and Liliane, but Toker says it was for Edgar Jr.

Apart from these, numerous additions and outbuildings; Oboler, Kaufman and Millard (none built) are examples.

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:38 am
by SDR
Excellent. (And yes, it's Kaufmann, and jr.)

Let's see what else we can find . . .

S

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:28 am
by DavidC

Re: Goetsch-Winckler Usonian house

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:50 am
by g.dorn
thats seems like a bargain - over here to get something like that you are looking are least 900k