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For a schoolwork, I'll looking for some details about the John Pew Houses. For example, I do not know how it carries the floor of the living room between the wall of chemine and stone pillars.
Thank you for your answer.
While I have never seen a framing plan of the Pew House, these photos of another building of similar size and siting might be useful, in making a guess.
Julius Shulman photos
This is the architect's site office at the Mutual Housing Association development, in Los Angeles, by A Quincy Jones. The date is 1946.
show what happens at the far end of the "bridge."
Note the single 12" I.B. (I-beam). What sort of structural gymnastics take place to connect this deck, and the enclosure above it, to the fin-like
stone pier at the far end of the room, I cannot say.
Unlike some other modernists, including Jones, Wright preferred to conceal structure within the envelope of his buildings.
Sorry I cannot be more helpful. Anyone ?
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I suppose all of them.(but mostly 1939-1940)
I was wondering the standard dimensions and widths of the frame etc.
Do they vary much between houses or was there a standard that Mr. Wright prefered.
For example...4 inch moulding? 3 inch width? heck I dont even know the name of the parts of the window. Sorry, Im not an architect . But I love it anyways.
As there appears to be an absense of any details on how this house was built, Ive' had a make a few considerations myself ( ie if I was detailing/building - what would I do - as a starting point).
I started by mapping out the 1200 grid ( 4ft) then adding the stone parts - to create a base set of locations for the timber parts ( floors, walls roof).
The floor framing in particular is interesting. According to the section drawing above - its taken through near the fire place, there appears to be only 1 steel beam - in line with the stone retaining wall ( to basement) and pier.
parallel to this steel beam, is 300 x 50 (12 x 2)at 600 c's (2 ft c's) floor joists - (according to my books a F11 LVL- 300 joists can span 5.7m single span),
From fire place to end of deck is 8 bays long x 1.2 = 9.6m, too long for timber joists. Therefore I reckon there would have to be a steel beam tangent across the 2 end piers picking up the joist- reducing its span and probably another tangent steel beam on the grid line that aligns with the overhead end of the roof terrace , thus making the joists span about 5.5m .
then another steel beam parallel to joists at the end wall that is supported by the basement /heater room wall.
However this all seems in contrary to the direction of the floor boards, which run parallel with the floor joists - unless there are 2 layers of floor boards tangent to each other, therefore I am now thinking that the building was built differently to that indicated in the section drawing.
Here is the framing based on my guess of section drawing
and here is the framing based on photos
photos indicating floor board direction
Perth Western Australia
think, design, build
Is this stone built on top of the timber joists, or on sand fill, or suspended concrete slab?
Is the basement under the kitchen or does the retaining wall form part of the basement stairs with a reduced basement area?
In the early scheme ( fire place on back wall of living, near dining) the drawings indicate a basement under the kitchen.
I found this photo showing a opening into the basement from outside.
So my guess is the basement is under the dining area and possibly kitchen - but its a mystery to me how the stone floor is supported.
And my prelim basement plan options - which shows the 4ft grid in light grey and flooring framing( version A) as dashed lines, stone as solid grey, showing basement to dining and kitchen areas
and with floor framing option B with reduced basement area
Perth Western Australia
think, design, build
The Affleck House is a similar mystery
With only one stone pier supporting cantilevered end.
(I hadn't realized there are two stone piers here at Pew.)
The exterior wood in the above color shot looks really good.
Wonder how the owner keeps the green mold under control?
The earlier drawings show brick as the masonry material. Remember that any or none of these selected drawings will depict what was actually built. We are not sure whether the Taliesin file numbers were assigned chronologically; that claim has not been made as far as I know.
Perhaps none of this material will add to your understanding of a possible structure to this building. I do note, however, that some early section drawings show the main floor plate as considerably thicker than is typical (or is shown in the larger-scale section), suggesting room for crossing members ?
I cannot be sure from your illustrations---despite the written description of the options you're exploring---where steel is placed. Perhaps you could add indication of steel to your plan drawings ?
The drawings that were published in 1986, in volume 6 of the A.D.A EDITA Wright Monographs: