Pieper House in AZ

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Paul Ringstrom
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Post by Paul Ringstrom »

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Post by PrairieMod »

wow--thanks for the link, Paul. It almost seems like a miracle product.

Is the UA 2.0 far behind?

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Post by DRN »

Bringing this thread forward post-outage.
Keywords: Pieper, Arthur, Paradise Valley, Usonian Automatic

Also, links to other pre-outage threads on Pieper and the Charles Montooth house next door which is often mistaken for Pieper:

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewto ... e1d80f566f

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewto ... 08cb474747

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SDR wrote:
Mon May 09, 2011 1:53 pm

© W A Storrer, "The Frank Lloyd Wright Companion"

DRN photos:

These pictures of the Pieper house were taken in September 1996 while the house's addition and remuddling were underway. The contractor let me wander the house freely. During the hour or so I spent there, I got a good sense of how a Usonian Automatic was assembled by watching portions of it be disassembled. The house interior was stripped of all casework, fixtures and appliances, and a new drywall ceiling had just been taped and spackled. According to the contractor, all steel sash windows and doors were to be sandblasted, reglazed and reinstalled...reinstallation was underway in the fomer bedrooms...living room had not yet been touched. The addition (3 or 4 times the size of the original) connected at the northeast face of the original where the bedroom "tail" met the living/dining "head". The stacked blocks were those removed for the connection. The exterior of the house (except for the window blocks) was to be covered with EIFS to introduce wall insulation to the single wythe only UA construction. Apparently, the house was a true prototype in that it had single wythe walls and a wood framed roof. Some surfaces of the block had received a milky gray cement wash intended to provide a uniform/finish color...the tan color seen on most surfaces was the original color of the block/house interior. The house had an intimate feel, and the block and windows created a strong rhythm that distracted me from the rather "rough" character of the "unfinished" concrete surfaces. The lack of insulation in the walls...single thin concrete membrane...led the interior to be quite hot, as it was mid-day with a temperature of 98F or so; it made me want to build a white canvas tent over the house to shade it.
Looking back on my visit to the house I find its loss even sadder now, knowing how enjoyable it is to live in a spartan example of Wright's late work. The Pieper house was a rare insight into the experimentation that went on between the textile block houses of the 20's and the more polished Usonian Automatics of the '50's.

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I have "discovered" this house today. I had never heard about the Pieper house before... The current floor plan shows a single story small house but the pictures shows a bigger house with two stories... it seem that with the addition we can't consider Pieper like a Wright's house no longer..?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6430 ... 0711_zpid/?

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/ar ... ew/google/

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

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The first illustrations on the previous page show the original house. Not sure where the "current" floor plan is found . . .

Additions to Wright houses are a problem for researchers. I don't know of a single resource for plans of houses as they appear today. Storrer occasionally shows expanded plans, but only where the addition(s) were designed during Wright's lifetime.

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

Post by HOJO »

It seems that nothing remains of the original?

DRN, do you have more pictures and would you be willing to share them?

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

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The original house is at lower left. Copper cube is not chimney, which is L-shaped masonry just to its left.

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

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I used this Virtual Globetrotting page to find the Pieper house. (The German pronunciation we use would have this name as Peep-er. Is that right ?) But the VG site does not show the right house. A number of neighboring houses are also indicated; none of them is named for Charles Montooth. Is any of them the Montooth---which is supposed to be next door to Pieper ?

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/ar ... ew/google/

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Roderick Grant
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Re: Pieper House in AZ

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Pieper is listed in Storrer at 6442 East Cheney Road. That is almost correct. 6442 E. Cheney Drive (which may have been part of the original Pieper property), at the corner of Cheney and North 65th Street, sports a large, adobe-esqe house. Next door, to the west, at 6430, is the Pieper House, swallowed up by additions. It is not a 2-story house; it just has a high ceiling over the original living room. Only the original structure is UA. Additions use CMU. From the road, it cannot be seen, but there is a block signpost by the street with the address on it.

One would have to hunt for FLW in that confused mess.

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

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While we have you, Roderick, is the Montooth residence visible on my aerial view above ?

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Re: Pieper House in AZ

Post by Roderick Grant »

There are several houses nearby, but they all look rather generic. Given that Montooth was a fine architect, I doubt any of the houses are his, unless some later owner has submerged it within additions, as has happened to Pieper.

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