Wright and Exposed Structure?

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jay
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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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A few that come to mind:
Boomer, Jacobs II, Boulter, Gordon, Bachman-Wilson, Loveness.

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Thanks for the list. I'll look them up.

Another thought on structure is that Wright often engaged in some architectural magic by placing a band of windows beneath the roof volume, making it appear that the roof is floating with no substantial means of support.

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Roderick Grant wrote:
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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Wright often engaged in some architectural magic by placing a band of windows beneath the roof volume, making it appear that the roof is floating with no substantial means of support
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Has any other architect attempted such an effect, and to such an extent?

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Yes

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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A few, of course, in more recent times. The Neils house was built in the same year as Johnson's glass house---but while that roof is symmetrically supported by regularly-spaced and substantial columns, the Neils roof leaves one unsure of how exactly it remains in place. Do those thin mullions really take the load---all of it ? Does the chimney mass way back there supply resistance to horizontal movement of that massive roof ? I suppose the answer in both cases must be "yes" . . .

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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I suppose something like this qualifies:
https://www.dezeen.com/2010/07/17/mount ... gn-office/
Not really what I was fishing for, though....
Perhaps the cantilever is too obvious (in comparison to Wright)?

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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I see such designs and picture a magician passing a hoop between roof and base as though the roof were a floating lady.

Roderick Grant
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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Remember all those 1950s diners with massive roofs floating effortlessly over glass walls?

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Ah true, the Googie stuff:
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Which quickly nods to Lautner:
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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Don't forget the Chauncey L. Griggs house in Tacoma, WA, of 1945. It has exposed rough-sawn (if I remember correctly) trusses (unusual, if not singular for Wright) as the structural element for the roof. Mr. Griggs was a lumberman, so perhaps Wright was showcasing Griggs product at his request.

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Boomer has a lot exposed structure

Jacobs II hemicycle has all its suspended bearers, roof joists exposed

Bachman Wilson - has half of its roof framing depth exposed

fallingwater is completely exposed - stone and painted concrete - Except for the floor structure - which is clad in stone floor paving
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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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Ha. Never thought about Fallingwater as having completely exposed structure.
Your right. Wow.
... and yet, concealed in front of our very eyes.

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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With no slab, the only concealed (and non-concrete) structural elements at Fallingwater are below the flagstone pavers...plywood and redwood sleepers straddling the actual 4" concrete floor joists.

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Re: Wright and Exposed Structure?

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How deep are those reinforced concrete beams (second image) ? And what is the major unit---the spacing of those five parallel footings ?

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Screen grabs from a video presentation by Robert Silman covering his firm's work at Fallingwater.


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